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Now we have the question from Sumo Slam that I hinted at.

And this is, should you focus on reading or listening more?

This is in reference to Matt's newsletter that he sent out a while ago.

I don't actually know exactly when.

But the writer was very intrigued by what he was talking about essentially.

It's a very long question i'll try to summarize it just to make it go quicker

but um oh no this is actually the whole ah this is the whole email that's why it's

so long it's a very long question they copied it here for reference it's basically about it says

that if you focus a lot more on reading

or just reading and listening at the same time

because reading is easier you will get a lot better at

that a lot faster and then you'll build everything on top of that model of the language

rather than a more listening sound focused one

which is how native speakers tend to do it is sort of the idea here um

and so skipping out at the bottom

and like the the statement here at the end is never

let your reading ability get better than your spoken ability right

and then a lot of people talk about having their reading

ability be not too far ahead of their listening ability

but to get the best possible results that's not enough you need to have your reading view worse

then you'll be saying abilities for the spoken language to become

like your full base model of the language sure um

and i those questions started looking at our thoughts on it why do we have reading pretty high up there

and our reasoning for

that sort of thing yeah yeah sumo asked this in um one of the servers

and i wrote a pretty long um written response to it

so i think uh we should probably publish

that as a blog post afterwards so we'll add

that to the to-do list but the short answer here is

that we don't really have enough data to definitively say whether a primary reading focus is more

or less effective than a primary listening focus.

The number of people who achieve really high levels in language learning are few, so it's very anecdotal,

and it's not like those people treated their language learning as an experiment by trying to control all the confounding factors.

So it's really hard to draw conclusions there.

Matt in particular, he and I discussed this a lot when we were writing the roadmap

because his approach to Japanese was very reading focused and then it caused a whole bunch of problems later on.

He basically ignored listening, he ignored pitch accent, he ignored like studying the sounds of the language until he was already reading the fluid.

And then he had to undo a lot of stuff later and had to deliberately study and practice.

So I definitely agree with Matt that you should not allow your reading to completely and totally outstruck your listening.

That does seem to cause problems later on.

People do develop sort of bad habits and bad fossilization of pronunciations and the way things

sound to them that then cause problems later on.

So we agree on that.

His approach at this point has been to take the exact opposite of perspective.

It's like, okay, well, if that doesn't work, then we should completely switch to listening as the primary focus.

That's what natives do, that's what babies do, so we should try and emulate that.

I'm less convinced about that argument.

I think that there are positive examples in both a reading-focused paradigm in terms of learning

and there are positive examples in a listening-focused paradigm, and there are negative examples in both of those as well.

So I don't think we can draw significant conclusions across

either one to say it has to be this one or it has to be this one.

From our perspective, our focus as a company is to increase the success rate of learners.

And when we say success rate, we mean the number of people who achieve their goal of functional fluency,

meaning they can like comfortably integrate into a culture and use the language in their day-to-day life.

They don't just start learning for 10 minutes a day and then burn out in a couple weeks and just to say, oh, I guess I'm not cut out for Spanish or whatever.

Right.

So we're really, really focused on that success rate, meaning

that they can stick with it they can be sustainable with

it uh we're not going for speed we're not even going

for like native level we are just going for how many

people can we get to this high level of fluency

and then if they want to go beyond that that's great um

and if they want to like try

and get there as quickly as possible that's great too but we're really focused on just that success rate

And from our perspective, reading is so much easier than listening

that the fastest way that you can get to a point where you enjoy yourself, and we believe that enjoyment is key to being able to do it sustainably,

the fastest way to enjoy yourself is to use the written language just because it makes the process so much easier.

You don't have to deal with the ambiguity of listening.

However, we do completely respect the fact that reading alone, pure reading without any listening at all can cause serious problems later on,

which is why we promote listening and reading together through as much of the early process as possible,

which is why subtitles and TV shows are sort of a great mix or podcasts with transcripts are a great mix.

And we call this multi-channel input or dual channel input.

So we've tried to weigh the pros and cons of all these different configurations to optimize for a success rate, for a higher success rate in language learning.

So from our perspective, totally fine to be reading, totally fine to have reading be the

paradigm that you base things on as long as you are consistently integrating listening throughout the process.

That being said, definitely more research to be done.

People are completely free to pursue whichever paradigm they think is best.

I cannot say, given the data that I've seen and given the examples that I've seen, that one of them is definitively better or worse than others.

But if your focus is, I just want to make sure that I'm successful in the long term, I want to make sure that this is sustainable, a reading paradigm is going to be easier for you.

If your focus is, I really, really want that high level of listening ability, I really, really want to be sounding super native, then perhaps a listening focus paradigm would be more suitable for you.

Though again, data is still out, jury's still out on whether that really matters in the long term or not.

It's almost like it's a really big question and problem to solve.

Yeah, language learning is weird like that.

It's pretty hard to create these very,

very targeted studies that actually can remove the confounding factors and really focus in on what is causal and what is correlation.

So it's a big field of study

and I'm definitely excited to continue to engage with that and continue to do our own research on it.

But know we're probably gonna be researching this for the next you know two decades only or longer

good all right well thank you for the question to muslim and i already actually put it on our

to-do list for to post the blog post about this that goes into a little bit more depth about it

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บทเรียนฝึกพูดระดับ B2 นี้ใช้วิดีโอ “Is it better to focus on READING or LISTENING? - Ask Ethan” เป็นสื่อ คำที่ถูกพูดซ้ำบ่อยที่สุด: reading, listening, language, learning, focus วิดีโอนี้มี 109 ประโยค และ 1609 คำ สำหรับฝึกพูดตาม ช่วงที่มีเสียงพูดยาว 8:41 ผู้พูดพูดเร็ว ประมาณ 185 คำต่อนาที จึงมีการเชื่อมเสียงและลดเสียงค่อนข้างมาก 89% ของคำอยู่ใน 3,000 คำที่ใช้บ่อยที่สุดในภาษาอังกฤษ คำศัพท์จึงตามได้ง่าย

คำศัพท์สำคัญในวิดีโอนี้

คำที่ยากที่สุด 14 คำในวิดีโอ พร้อมคำอ่านและความหมาย:

คำศัพท์	คำอ่าน	ความหมาย
fluency คำนาม	/ˈfluːənsi/	ความคล่องแคล่ว
sumo คำนาม	/ˈsuːməʊ/	ซูโม่
ambiguity คำนาม	/æm.bɪˈɡjuː.ɪ.ti/	ความกำกวม
subtitle คำนาม	/ˈsʌbtaɪtəl/	บทบรรยายใต้ภาพ
pronunciation คำนาม	/pɹəˌnʌn.siˈeɪ.ʃən/	การออกเสียง, เสียงอ่าน
circumstance คำนาม	/ˈsɝ.kəmˌstæns/	กรณี, สถานการณ์
newsletter คำนาม	/ˈn(j)uzˌlɛtɚ/	จดหมายข่าว
enjoyment คำนาม	/ɪnˈd͡ʒɔɪ.mənt/	ความเพลิดเพลิน
correlation คำนาม	/ˌkɔɹ.əˈleɪ.ʃən/	สหสัมพันธ์
weigh คำกริยา	/weɪ/	ชั่ง
deliberately คำกริยาวิเศษณ์	/dɪˈlɪb.(ə.)ɹət.li/	เจตนา
penny คำนาม	/ˈpɛni/	เพนนี
hint คำนาม	/hɪnt/	คำใบ้
podcast คำนาม	/ˈpɑdˌkæst/	พอดแคสต์, พอดคาสต์

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โครงสร้างที่ผู้พูดใช้บ่อยที่สุด พร้อมคำพูดจริงจากวิดีโอ:

โครงสร้าง	ในวิดีโอ
Present perfect have/has + กริยาช่อง 3 — เหตุการณ์ในอดีตที่ยังเกี่ยวข้องกับปัจจุบัน	has been · we've tried · I've seen
Relative clauses who / which + อนุประโยค — ข้อมูลเพิ่มเติมเกี่ยวกับคนหรือสิ่งของ	people who achieve

การออกเสียงที่ควรระวัง

ผู้พูดใช้รูปย่อและรูปลดเสียง 29 ครั้ง เช่น don't, we're, I'm ให้พูดแบบสั้นตามที่ได้ยิน

เสียง “sh” และ “zh”: pronunciation /pɹəˌnʌn.siˈeɪ.ʃən/, correlation /ˌkɔɹ.əˈleɪ.ʃən/, configuration /kənˌfɪɡ.əˈɹeɪ̯.ʃən/, publish /ˈpʌblɪʃ/, confusion /kənˈfjuːʒən/
คำยาว — ลงเสียงหนักให้ถูกพยางค์: definitively /dɪˈfɪnɪtɪvli/, sustainable /səˈsteɪnəbəl/, ambiguity /æm.bɪˈɡjuː.ɪ.ti/, personalize /ˈpɜː.sə.nə.laɪz/, sustainably /səˈsteɪ.nə.bli/

เสียงที่คนไทยมักออกเสียงยาก:

เสียงท้ายคำ — ออกเสียงให้ครบ ไม่เปลี่ยนเป็นตัวสะกดแบบไทย: sustainable /səˈsteɪnəbəl/, causal /ˈkɔːzəl/, optimize /ˈɑptɪmaɪz/, personalize /ˈpɜː.sə.nə.laɪz/, subtitle /ˈsʌbtaɪtəl/
/v/ — ไม่ใช่ /w/ ให้ฟันบนแตะริมฝีปากล่าง: definitively /dɪˈfɪnɪtɪvli/, overwhelm /ˌoʊ.vɚˈwɛlm/, whichever /wɪt͡ʃˈɛvɚ/
/z/ — เสียงก้อง ไม่ใช่ /s/: causal /ˈkɔːzəl/, optimize /ˈɑptɪmaɪz/, personalize /ˈpɜː.sə.nə.laɪz/, summarize /ˈsʌməˌɹaɪz/, newsletter /ˈn(j)uzˌlɛtɚ/

วิธีฝึกกับวิดีโอนี้

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เริ่มที่ความเร็ว 0.75× พูดตามทีละประโยค แล้วกลับไปใช้ความเร็วปกติเมื่อเริ่มคล่อง
อัดเสียงตัวเองแล้วเทียบกับต้นฉบับ โดยสังเกตคำอย่าง fluency, sumo, ambiguity เป็นพิเศษ

เทคนิค Shadowing คืออะไร?

Shadowing เป็นเทคนิคการเรียนรู้ภาษาที่ได้รับการรับรองทางวิทยาศาสตร์ พัฒนาขึ้นสำหรับการฝึกนักแปลมืออาชีพ วิธีการนี้เรียบง่ายแต่ทรงพลัง: คุณฟังเสียงภาษาอังกฤษจากเจ้าของภาษาและพูดตามทันที — เหมือนเงาที่ตามผู้พูดด้วยช่วงเวลาห่าง 1-2 วินาที การวิจัยแสดงว่าเทคนิคนี้ปรับปรุงความแม่นยำในการออกเสียง ทำนองเสียง จังหวะ การเชื่อมเสียง การฟังเข้าใจ และความคล่องแคล่วในการพูดได้อย่างมีนัยสำคัญ

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