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I guess in the free market example, you have 100 people, but there's no illegal immigration, but there's no minimum wage.
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These people are naturally incentivized to get together and agree, you know, we won't accept any wage lower than this,
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like collective bargaining, which is kind of like a socialist principle.
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So I guess I'm just proposing if these...
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Well, they can do that, but at the end of the day, the business owner will be able to decide, right?
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It's true.
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And if these people, then they're going to starve.
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You know, you work or don't eat.
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I guess that's fair, yeah.
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I guess my argument here is that the capitalist system that we have, you know, with free markets inherently drifts towards this kind of cronyism
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and I think part of this economic system enables
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and in part requires the mass immigration that we see today
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and I mean maybe it's it's weird to think about
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but I'll give like a little economics example I guess imagine there's a thousand people at this university
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and there's like 10 jobs on university
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and everybody says I will no longer accept any what's it called any wage lower than $15 an hour all
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So these people are thinking, okay, well, I'm not going to get paid $14 or $13.
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But it's in these companies' interests, these businesses that work there,
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simply to make the most money and to expand that they need people who will accept less wages.
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So let's say, well, why don't we bring in a whole bunch of people from overseas?
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Yes, I see the argument that you're making, and I don't mean to interrupt you, but it's rather long.
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The point is not with immigrants.
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The point is with minimum wage laws.
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Because minimum wage laws are not free market.
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You are telling an employer what amount they are able to pay an employee, right?
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I'm not sure.
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Do you know what the profit margin of the majority of small businesses in America is?
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I assume it's pretty slim.
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It's 1 % is the average, right?
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So now let's say you're a business and you don't have a minimum wage
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and you're paying two guys $10 an hour to go and work and sell sandwiches, whatever.
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Now the government comes in and says, well, you have to pay these people $15 an hour.
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What does that do?
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You've got to fire a guy, right?
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And so now you're paying, maybe one guy gets paid a little bit more, but now you have less of a worker.
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It makes your business suffer, right?
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The business owner should be the one in a free market to decide how much I pay this person.
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And if someone comes in and says, well, that's not fair, then they can go to a different business, right?
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Or achieve different skills to advance themselves to go and do a different thing themselves, right?
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So it's not actually an immigration debate you're having on that.
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It's a minimum wage law debate.
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All right.
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I understand where you're coming from.
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And for the sake of the example, or my argument, let's say there was no minimum wage laws, there would still kind of be a societal,
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say there's 100 people, you know, they all need this amount to survive, or they want this amount.
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And I think immigration, see if there still is no minimum wage laws, let's say they're paying a guy like 10 bucks.
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If you could still bring in a guy and pay him one bucks as a business owner, you totally would, right?
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Right.
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But you can do that with an American citizen, too, if you have no minimum wage law
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because you could have before 1960 right this country was like 90 percent white
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and pretty much everyone was legal everyone was actually a citizen of this country right
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so how did we get these things done before
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that right you know what i mean you know i'm saying
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so it's like people were willing to do those jobs
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and take less money and then build themselves up or
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if it said oh i'm not getting paid enough here
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or i don't like my boss i'll go find a different type of job
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you know what i mean yeah no i agree with you saying um i guess i just have to touch like inflation.
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I mean, you know, back in the 1950s, 1960s, a lot of people could afford a house,
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a home, a college education with a lot less work than we do have nowadays.
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And my argument is just the more people we have and the more people that move in,
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the less your average person gets paid because there's so many people
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that the value of like how much it pays one person goes down.
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So I guess my value of labor does go down with more immigration.
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So I guess my argument is
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that our economic system needs the value of labor to go down to reduce input costs because we want cheaper stuff.
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Everybody here, they want to consume goods, whether it be media or iPhones or food.
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And in order for that, you know, you can do a lot of supply chain management.
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By the end of the day, it really comes down to how low can we get the cost of labor?
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And if you were to go completely libertarian with it and say, you know, completely free markets and all of this,
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then having completely free markets with no regulations is the only way you can have illegal immigration.
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Because if you don't have completely free markets and you have wage, minimum wage laws, you have regulations, you have anti -globalism, you have tariffs,
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you have protectionism, all these different things, it will not induce business to actually thrive,
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and people will get the shaft on that for the immigrants and for the citizens who are in that country.
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Because then there's no reason for them to pay American citizens that wage.
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If they know they can pay an illegal immigrant less, then why would they pay an American citizen more for the same job?
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Exactly.
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Right.
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Which is what I'm saying, and that's part of the minimum wage.
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So if you got rid of the minimum wage, then maybe some American comes and says,
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well, I'll work on a farm for the same price that an illegal immigrant is doing it for now,
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you know, and then build my way up.
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You have that freedom.
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But with minimum wage laws, you don't have that freedom.
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Yeah, I have to agree with that.
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But I still think that as business owners, your interest is you must make as much profit
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or else someone else will make more profit you outcompete
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you you lose right thank goodness that's how it should be um
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and that's a that's a very dynamic system
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and allows for a lot of the companies we have nowadays
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which can really create a lot of you know gdp
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and buildings and everything around us but i would argue
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that it is in their inherent interest simply to make profit
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that illegal immigration and immigration as a whole is desired so it's
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In my view, at least, it's impossible to view immigration as an issue in itself
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when you need to consider that these businesses really want that as well.
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Right, but if they could choose to pay, if an American could choose to have themselves work for less, they would.
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The problem is a minimum wage of why these people want to bring in illegals
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because they're forced to pay an American citizen this much.
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Whereas if they're an illegal alien, they can pay them whatever they want, right?
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Right?
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So of course.
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But if you had people in a total free market and said, oh, we can pay this person whatever I want
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and then I can choose to be paid whatever I want within the market, whatever this employer wants to pay me,
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and people can shop around and say this job's good, this one's not, then the illegal immigration is,
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you know, it's not nearly as worthwhile for businesses to want because they can just pay citizens.
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I mean, paying people less, they'll have less money to spend.
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That lowers the standard of living.
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I guess this is kind of a weird shift to the argument.
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I guess it's better phrased as like, if we even allow this as a thing to happen, even if it's just paying people less,
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these companies still need to make money.
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They're still going to lower input costs and the quality of your average person.
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And we're putting quality in terms of material,
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which I don't really think your life and your happiness is determined by how many things you can buy.
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You know, money doesn't buy happiness.
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I think it's a lot more meaningful than that.
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But in our current society, you know, money and well -being is mostly just financial.
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How much money do I have?
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How much new things can I buy?
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You know, all that sort of thing.
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If you allow these businesses to, I guess, in the free market example, you have 100 people, but there's no illegal immigration,
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but there's no minimum wage.
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These people are naturally incentivized to get together and agree, you know, we won't accept any wage lower than this,
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like collective bargaining, which is kind of like a socialist principle.
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So I guess I'm just proposing.
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Well, they can do that, but at the end of the day, the business owner will be able to decide, right?
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It's true.
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And if these people, then they're going to starve.
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You know, you work or don't eat.
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I guess that's fair, yeah.
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That's how you've got to look at it, you know.
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These are able -bodied people.
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So, I guess how you put it...
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I'll end it with this, just back and forth.
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Because I know I've got other people in line.
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I don't want everyone to get held up.
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I guess I'll come back later.
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But in order to solve the illegal immigration problem in an incentive purpose, you would have to lower the minimum,
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or you'd have to remove minimum wages to allow for dynamic labor?
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Yes.
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that is definitely part of the problem yes i just personally worry
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that this kind of decreases your average living
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and i think it makes people on a i think people as a whole would come together
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if they're getting paid
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so little yeah i mean that's what unions are yeah you know people have the ability to make unions
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and do those kind of things not that usually they do any good
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but um that that is their freedom to be able to do right yeah
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but like if a business was run by five of its own workers
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and there was no real incentive to make a massive amount of profit
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but more just i guess it doesn't work that way
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because uh they need to make profit to have their job secured
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but um like a business owned by its own workers would
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never support importing people to replace them for lower wages
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so they make more money so my argument is
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that businesses themselves as they're currently structured any employee wouldn't want someone to come in
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and take their job even if they don't own the means of production exactly
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but an executive would because they can pay them less
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so I'm just saying I'll end it here
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because I mean right it's kind of like why you have to stop illegal immigration
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Thank you.
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Bu dersin kelimeleri ve konuşma notları
Bu konuşma dersi “移民搶工作，還是最低工資害的？大學生 vs 保守派 8 分鐘完整辯論｜中英字幕” videosuna dayanıyor. En çok tekrarlanan kelimeler: wage, minimum, guess, immigration, illegal. Bu videoda gölgeleme çalışması için 160 cümle ve 1945 kelime var. Konuşma bölümü 9:03 sürüyor. Konuşmacı hızlı konuşuyor, dakikada yaklaşık 215 kelime; bu yüzden birbirine bağlanan ve zayıflayan sesler duyacaksınız. Kelimelerin %88’i İngilizcede en sık kullanılan 3.000 kelime arasında, bu yüzden kelime dağarcığını takip etmek kolay.
Bu videodaki önemli kelimeler
Videodan öğrenmeye değer 15 kelime, telaffuzu ve anlamıyla:
| Kelime | Telaffuz | Anlam |
|---|---|---|
| wage isim | /weɪd͡ʒ/ | ücret, gündelik |
| immigration isim | /ˌɪmɪˈɡɹeɪʃən/ | göç etme, göçmenlik |
| citizen isim | /ˈsɪtɪzən/ | yurttaş, vatandaş |
| immigrant isim | /ˈɪmɪɡɹənt/ | göçmen, muhacir |
| worker isim | /ˈwɝ.kɚ/ | işçi, emekçi |
| happiness isim | /ˈhæpinɪs/ | mutluluk, saadet |
| regulation isim | /ˌɹɛɡjʊˈleɪʃən/ | regülasyon |
| principle isim | /ˈpɹɪn.sɪ.pəl/ | prensip, ilke |
| employer isim | /ɪmˈplɔɪə/ | işveren |
| socialist isim | /ˈsoʊ.ʃə.lɪst/ | sosyalist |
| propose fiil | /pɹəˈpəʊz/ | teklif etmek |
| incentive isim | /ɪnˈsɛntɪv/ | teşvik |
| bargain isim | /ˈbɑːɹɡən/ | kelepir, okazyon |
| starve fiil | /stɑɹv/ | açlıktan ölmek |
| argue fiil | /ˈɑɹ.ɡju/ | münakaşa etmek, tartışmak |
Duyacağınız deyimsel fiiller
| Kelime | Anlam |
|---|---|
| get together fiil | toplanmak, buluşmak |
Tekrar etmeye değer cümleler
Videodan, günlük konuşmada yeniden kullanabileceğiniz kısa ve tam cümleler:
- You know, you work or don't eat.
- You've got to fire a guy, right?
- I understand where you're coming from.
- How much money do I have?
- How much new things can I buy?
Bu videodaki dil bilgisi
Konuşmacının en çok kullandığı yapılar, videodaki sözcüklerin aynısıyla:
| Yapı | Videoda |
|---|---|
| Edilgen yapı be + fiilin üçüncü hâli — kimin yaptığı değil, ne olduğu önemli | are naturally incentivized · is desired · be paid |
| İlgi cümlecikleri who / which + cümle — bir kişi ya da şey hakkında ek bilgi | bargaining, which is · people who will |
Dikkat edilecek telaffuzlar
Konuşmacı don't, I'm, they're gibi kısaltılmış biçimleri 50 kez kullanıyor. Bunları duyduğunuz gibi kısa söyleyin.
- “th” sesleri: worthwhile /ˌwɜː(ɹ)θˈwaɪl/, thrive /θɹajv/
- “sh” ve “zh” sesleri: immigration /ˌɪmɪˈɡɹeɪʃən/, regulation /ˌɹɛɡjʊˈleɪʃən/, socialist /ˈsoʊ.ʃə.lɪst/, inflation /ɪnˈfleɪ.ʃən/, shaft /ˈʃɑːft/
- Uzun kelimeler — vurguyu doğru yere koyun: immigration /ˌɪmɪˈɡɹeɪʃən/, naturally /ˈnæt͡ʃ.(ə.)ɹə.li/, regulation /ˌɹɛɡjʊˈleɪʃən/, economics /ˌiːkəˈnɒmɪks/, capitalist /ˈkæp.ɪ.tə.lɪst/
Türkçe konuşanların zorlandığı sesler:
- /w/ — dudaklar yuvarlak, /v/ değil: wage /weɪd͡ʒ/, worker /ˈwɝ.kɚ/, whereas /(h)wɛɹˈæz/, sandwich /ˈsæn(d).wɪd͡ʒ/, worthwhile /ˌwɜː(ɹ)θˈwaɪl/
- Kelime başındaki ünsüz kümesi — araya ünlü eklemeyin: principle /ˈpɹɪn.sɪ.pəl/, propose /pɹəˈpəʊz/, starve /stɑɹv/, skill /skɪl/, whereas /(h)wɛɹˈæz/
- /æ/ — “e”den daha açık: naturally /ˈnæt͡ʃ.(ə.)ɹə.li/, happiness /ˈhæpinɪs/, dynamic /daɪˈnæm.ɪk/, whereas /(h)wɛɹˈæz/, expand /ɪkˈspænd/
Bu videoyla nasıl çalışılır
- Videonun tamamını konuşmadan bir kez dinleyin ve bilmediğiniz kelimeleri not edin.
- 0,75× hızla başlayın, cümle cümle tekrar edin ve kolaylaşınca normal hıza dönün.
- Kendinizi kaydedin ve orijinaliyle karşılaştırın; wage, immigration, citizen gibi kelimelere özellikle dikkat edin.
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