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One interview I get asked about a lot is the interview
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I did with Ronnie James Dio at his house in Los Angeles in 2004 for our first film, Metalheadbanger's Journey.
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And you know, I've talked a lot about this film in the past, but after sitting down and watching it again after many years away from it,
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it made me realize how important this interview was to our first movie.
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When we set out to make that film, we knew we wanted to talk about the church burnings
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that had happened in Norway and the role of Satan and Satanism in metal.
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But Ronnie took that topic to a whole other level
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and made me realize that metal has a lot to say about religion, about the difference between good and evil,
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and the difference between God and the devil, and these questions that are fundamentally human.
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And it also made me realize that I really miss Ronnie.
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I'm sure you do too.
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And so I'm glad that we can share this clip with you.
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Tell me about what Holy Diver is about.
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Well Holy Diver actually is a really kind of religious song.
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I mean it's once again based from a religious attitude.
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I have a tendency to do that a lot too because I think that, especially the religion that I grew up with,
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Catholicism has gotten itself so far behind the current method of healing
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because it's so steeped in the past
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that I've always had a go at them for really teaching by fear more than teaching by love.
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Of course they teach by love too, but I was always afraid as a kid of the nuns, the big penguins who were going to smack you in the head with a ruler,
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which is what they always did anyway.
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Or the fact that if you do something wrong, you're going to go to hell, and you're going to suffer terribly.
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And I'm like, whoa, give me a break here.
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What's going on?
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Here's your God.
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He's that man nailed up on a cross there.
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Oh my God.
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Again, it was so much more by fear that I just really divorced myself from most of those attitudes.
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So anyway, the song Holy Diver is really about a Christ figure who on another place,
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not Earth, has done exactly the same as we've apparently experienced or are supposed to have experienced on Earth,
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dying for the sins of man so that man could start again and be cleansed and do it properly.
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So the same thing happened on this other far distant planet.
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And all the people on this planet are saying to him, you know, they're calling him the Holy Diver.
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Holy Diver because he's about to go to another place, to another planet, another world, to do what he did on from this place, saved people from their sins,
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or absolved them from their sins by having himself killed.
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And the people are saying to him,
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don't go, no, no, innuendos of tigers and stripes and hearts and being eaten and you'll die.
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And it was meant to show just how selfish humanity is, that this one form of humanity on this one world said,
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no, no, no, don't go down there and save anybody else.
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Stay here.
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We need you.
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You're ours.
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That's what that was about.
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We're talking about religion, and we've talked to people about religion on this journey, and about Christianity and about Satanism.
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and Satanism, as you know, has run through metal music or at least satanic imagery.
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You're in Norway where a lot of these bands take this
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stuff very seriously to the point where they've burned down churches and there's been murders in that scene.
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I'm interested to get your perspective on the satanic content in metal
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and also how religion has played a part in the music that you've made?
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Well, once again, religion has played a part in my music more from a dissatisfaction, a discontented kind of view.
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And I believe that any religion is a great religion because it gives people the strength, some people the strength to go on.
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They have to have faith.
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And they believe that the ultimate goal of reaching nirvana or heaven is because there'll be good people hey, can't ask for more than that.
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That's great.
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Religion should be teaching love and it should be teaching
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that there is something probably higher than we are out there to lessen our sense of importance.
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So, you know, as far as religion goes, I've always dealt with it that way, that it's a good thing, but I think maybe sometimes the teachings don't hold true to themselves.
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I shall not kill an eye for an eye.
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No, I don't think so.
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So that's why for me, the whole world is heaven and hell.
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That song is about that, the fact that we, in my mind, we live in heaven, we live in hell.
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God and the devil are inherent in each of us.
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And it's our choice to make.
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You can take the road to good and take the road to bad.
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Well, we have a choice.
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The optimum way to go, of course, is to do the good thing.
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I totally agree with that.
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But again, because Religion is taught so badly, I think, that I've used it as an example of humanity somehow.
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I mean, I've done it with other subjects as well, but religion seems to be one that really works.
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Now, in the music itself, you're talking about generally a lot broader kind of music, heavier, obviously, doomier at times.
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It just fits the genre.
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If you're going to write a gothic song, you're probably not going to write it about how your love affair broke up.
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So your subject matter becomes a little bit more narrowed.
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And certainly evil is a great subject.
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Evil is dark.
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Evil is something that we know about but don't understand why it happens and don't really ever meet up with the devil.
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So again, it's kind of having to use your own imagination.
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It's really the same with a god, unless you believe that it's a white guy sitting with a robe on a chair someplace.
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Obviously, it could be an Asian guy doing that, or it could be a woman, or it could be whatever.
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You know, we don't know these things.
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So it's good, unless it's used our imagination a little bit.
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But the themes around evil are just so much more cognizant to the music that we make.
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Because of minor keys, because minor keys are so prevalent in most metal music, it's hard to write a song on an entire minor key and talk about,
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you know, nice things.
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It just is.
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So it's a vehicle.
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It's a good vehicle.
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So in my case, I've done it differently.
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I've always tried to be someone who has warned about the fact, warned people about the fact that there is good and there is evil.
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And you have a choice and your best choice is probably not to be evil.
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This is what evil can do to you.
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This is what evil has done to the people that I know.
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Depends on your perspective of evil though.
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Drugs are evil.
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Too much indulgence in bad things is evil.
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hanging around with evil people is going to beget you to be an evil person.
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These are the themes that I've tried to deal with in a darker way.
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Not to say that the devil is lurking around the corner.
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I'm not one of those who goes to that kind of extreme.
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I think that has been a problem, that people have taken metal music to that extreme socially.
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I have tried never to do that.
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Because of course we have the satanic phenomenon and the fact
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that a lot of metal bands have aligned themselves very closely with evil or with Satan and what Satan represents.
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It's a symbolism too, isn't it?
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I mean, it's a great symbolism for what they're trying to portray.
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But what do you think then about that satanic element in metal?
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Well, I'm not a satanist.
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So therefore, I guess I'll have to give them the right to have their religious belief because that's what that will be.
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I mean, really, it's like witches at the end of the day.
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I mean, witches are normally pretty good people.
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You know, you only get the satanic end of it that happens that way.
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Yeah, sure.
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What's this called?
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Slate.
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Slate.
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When I apply for the patent, I want to make sure that I...
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The slate.
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See, I'll change this part from the black and white thing to something a little bit more evil.
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Just put them around.
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Start with white and black.
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There you go.
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That's it.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Drag it up here.
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It'll be perfect.
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When you open it, flames come out.
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Black and red.
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I throw it.
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So, Ronnie, just continue with your thoughts on the satanic content of heavy metal.
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Okay.
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Again, you know, from my perspective, it's always been a warning about it that look, there's a lot of evil out there in the world.
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In case you don't know that yet, there's a lot of evil in the world.
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So that's really the way I deal with it.
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Others, again, go to the extremes and feel that the symbolism, which is incredible for artwork,
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for stage presentation, it goes well with black leather and chains and all those kind of things,
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with lights and pyrotechnics.
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It's just a perfect medium for it.
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I mean, darkness and then therefore I guess evil is a great medium for this.
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It's a great petri dish.
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But it doesn't necessarily mean
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that you have to go to those extremes where people are joining the neo-Nazi party
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and burning synagogues and burning churches or whatever it may be.
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That I have no time for at all.
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But I think it's just because it's so it's again
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so not known
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that you can almost say anything you need to you know we all know about good love
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and be good to your neighbor
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but we don't really know what the devil's doing we don't
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know what's happening where he's hanging out you know is he
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there with a slate going on okay roll him time to
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burn another you know another witch somewhere we don't know anything like
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that so you can be you have
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so much more freedom to create lyrically things musically you know minor keys are minor keys
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and rhythms are rhythms but obviously you must be alluding more to what the subject matter is because
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if you're speaking about about how Satan is the coolest guy
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on the face of the planet then you know that's that's what you've decided to do
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but so obviously there's a line with you you think
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when kids get around to burning actually burning churches like they have in Norway
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and feel very serious about this stuff and actually want to make some kind of broader statement.
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I mean, we talked to a guy who did burn one of these churches.
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He wants to make a statement.
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He feels that Christianity in his country has been a terrible,
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terrible thing that has ruined their society.
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So they feel quite passionate about this.
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But you're saying that's taking it too far.
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Oh, of course it is.
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I mean, that's taking it to the point of idiocy.
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You know, it really is.
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I mean, we talked earlier about, you know, mental and violence.
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I mean, you can't get any more violent than that.
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I mean, what if someone was inside that church?
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Maybe there were.
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I don't know.
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I mean, you have a problem with Christianity, so you have a problem with life as well.
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You have a problem with this person being alive because they're in there.
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I mean, it's idiocy.
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It's complete idiocy.
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Of course I have a line.
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I have a line.
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You know, I have my own moral standards that I must deal with.
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and my moral standards are not in praise of the devil.
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They aren't.
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If that puts anybody off about what I've done in my life, there you go.
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I was in Black Sabbath.
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It's pretty hard to shed that cloak because we as a band never ever in interviews would say,
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no, we're not evil.
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No, we wouldn't do those kind of things.
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No, no, no way.
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And when you don't defend yourself and you let people make their own judgments as to what you are, especially with a name like Black Sabbath,
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then you're going to be painted with that paintbrush and you're going to have to wear it.
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אוצר מילים והערות הגייה לשיעור הזה
שיעור הדיבור הזה ברמה C1 מבוסס על הסרטון “RONNIE JAMES DIO interview on religion and the Devil 2004”. המילים שחוזרות הכי הרבה: evil, religion, metal. בסרטון הזה יש 190 משפטים ו-2142 מילים לתרגול Shadowing. הדיבור נמשך 11:50. הדובר מדבר מהר, כ-181 מילים בדקה, אז צפו לצלילים מחוברים ומקוצרים. 86% מהמילים נמצאות בין 3,000 המילים הנפוצות ביותר באנגלית; כדאי ללמוד את השאר לפני שמתחילים.
אוצר מילים מרכזי בסרטון הזה
15 המילים המתקדמות ביותר בסרטון, עם ההגייה והמשמעות שלהן:
| מילה | הגייה | משמעות |
|---|---|---|
| rhythm שם עצם | /ˈɹɪð.əm/ | קֶצֶב |
| cleanse פועל | /klɛnz/ | איבק |
| dissatisfaction שם עצם | /dɪsˌsætɪsˈfækʃən/ | מורת רוח, חוסר סיפוק |
| indulgence שם עצם | /ɪnˈdʌl.d͡ʒəns/ | הִתְפַּנְּקוּת |
| innuendo שם עצם | /ˌɪnjuˈɛndəʊ/ | רמיזה |
| paintbrush שם עצם | /ˈpeɪntˌbɹʌʃ/ | מִכְחוֹל, מִבְרֶשֶׁת |
| pyrotechnics שם עצם | /ˌpaɪ.roʊˈtɛk.nɪks/ | פִּירוֹטֶכְנִיקָה |
| synagogue שם עצם | /ˈsɪnəˌɡɑɡ/ | בֵּית־כְּנֶסֶת |
| stripe שם עצם | /stɹaɪp/ | פַּס |
| robe שם עצם | /ɹoʊb/ | חלוק |
| cloak שם עצם | /kləʊk/ | גְּלִימָה |
| nun שם עצם | /nʌn/ | נְזִירָה |
| neighbour שם עצם | /ˈneɪbɚ/ | שָׁכֵן, שְׁכֵנָה |
| fundamentally תואר הפועל | עֶקְרוֹנִית | |
| penguin שם עצם | /ˈpɛŋ.ɡwɪn/ | פִּינְגְּוִין |
Phrasal verbs שתשמעו
| מילה | הגייה | משמעות |
|---|---|---|
| come out פועל | /ˌkʌm ˈaʊt/ | יָצָא |
| go down פועל | ירד | |
| sit down פועל | התיישב \ הִתְיַשֵּׁב |
משפטים שכדאי לחזור עליהם
משפטים קצרים ושלמים מהסרטון שאפשר להשתמש בהם בשיחה יומיומית:
- I'm sure you do too.
- No, I don't think so.
- You know, we don't know these things.
- It's a symbolism too, isn't it?
- I mean, what if someone was inside that church?
דקדוק בסרטון הזה
המבנים שהדובר משתמש בהם הכי הרבה, עם המילים המדויקות מהסרטון:
| מבנה | בסרטון |
|---|---|
| הווה מושלם (Present perfect) have/has + past participle — פעולה שקרתה בעבר ועדיין יש לה חשיבות או השפעה עכשיו | I've talked · has gotten · I've always had |
| סביל (Passive voice) be + past participle — הדגש הוא על מה שקורה, לא על מי שעושה את הפעולה | be cleansed · being eaten · was meant |
| משפטי זיקה (Relative clauses) who / which + clause — מידע נוסף על אדם או דבר | someone who has · those who goes · symbolism, which is |
הגייה ששווה לשים לב אליה
הדובר משתמש ב-60 קיצורים וצורות מקוצרות, כמו don't, you're, I've. אמרו אותם בצורה הקצרה, כפי שאתם שומעים אותם.
- הצלילים של “th”: rhythm /ˈɹɪð.əm/, catholicism /kəˈθɔləsɪzm/
- הצלילים של “sh” ו-“zh”: dissatisfaction /dɪsˌsætɪsˈfækʃən/, paintbrush /ˈpeɪntˌbɹʌʃ/, socially /ˈsoʊʃəli/, passionate /ˈpæʃənɪt/
- מילים ארוכות — שימו לב להטעמה: symbolism /ˈsɪmbəˌlɪzəm/, catholicism /kəˈθɔləsɪzm/, dissatisfaction /dɪsˌsætɪsˈfækʃən/, innuendo /ˌɪnjuˈɛndəʊ/, musically /ˈmjuːzɪkəli/
צלילים שדוברי עברית מתקשים בהם:
- /w/ — שפתיים מעוגלות, לא /v/: warn /woɹn/, penguin /ˈpɛŋ.ɡwɪn/, whoa /woʊ/
- /æ/ — פתוח יותר מה-“אֶ” העברית, לא כמו “a” ב-“cup”: satanic /seɪˈtænɪk/, absolve /æbˈzɑlv/, dissatisfaction /dɪsˌsætɪsˈfækʃən/, smack /smæk/, passionate /ˈpæʃənɪt/
- /r/ — הלשון לא נוגעת בשום מקום, לא ה-“ר” הגרונית: extremes /ɪkˈstɹimz/, warn /woɹn/, rhythm /ˈɹɪð.əm/, nirvana /nɪɹˈvɑ.nə/, paintbrush /ˈpeɪntˌbɹʌʃ/
איך לתרגל עם הסרטון הזה
- הקשיבו לכל הסרטון פעם אחת בלי לדבר, ורשמו את המילים שאתם לא מכירים.
- התחילו במהירות 0.75×, תרגלו Shadowing משפט אחר משפט, וחזרו למהירות רגילה כשזה מרגיש קל.
- הקליטו את עצמכם והשוו למקור, תוך תשומת לב למילים כמו rhythm, cleanse, dissatisfaction.
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