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Welcome back to Mayo Clinic Radio.
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I'm Dr. Tom Shives.
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And I'm Tracy McRae.
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Statins are medicines that are used to lower cholesterol in the blood.
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And, you know, they're big sellers in the United States.
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I think statins are the second or third most commonly prescribed prescription drug in the United States.
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And for those with high cholesterol, statins work by blocking a substance in your body that's needed to make cholesterol.
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and they may also help your body reabsorb cholesterol that's built up in plaques on your artery walls.
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That's a good thing.
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You get rid of that plaque.
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Now, statins can prevent further blockage in your blood vessels and help reduce your risk of heart attack or stroke.
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Now, the reason that this topic came up is because a good friend of ours gave my wife, Kula, a book.
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and it was called The New Health Rules by Frank Lipman, MD, and Danielle Claro.
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And it's a New York Times bestselling book.
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Okay, it must be good.
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Yeah, well, you'd think.
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I started leafing through it and I got to this one chapter
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and the title of the chapter was Step Away from Statins.
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And it went on to say, if you're on a statin drug like Lipitor to lower your cholesterol,
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you may know that there's controversy surrounding these medications.
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And here's the clarity.
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Lowering cholesterol does not, it turns out, prevent heart attacks and strokes.
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We have been sold a bill of goods.
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The big deal about this is that millions of people are on statins unnecessarily, and statins cause diabetes, liver damage,
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nervous system problems, muscle weakness, and more.
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I figured we needed a second opinion from a Mayo Clinic expert.
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So maybe statins aren't for everyone, and they aren't without risk.
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The information or misinformation that's available can be confusing for consumers.
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Here to discuss statins is Mayo Clinic cardiologist Dr. Stephen Kopetsky.
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Welcome back to the program, Dr. Kopetsky.
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Thank you, Tracy and Tom.
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All right, Dr. Kopetsky, we need the straight scoop.
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Can statins prevent heart attacks and strokes or not?
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Statins can unequivocally prevent heart attack and strokes.
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Now, where does stuff like this come from?
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I mean, here's a New York Times bestselling book, and it says statins can't do it.
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Yeah.
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It comes from, I think, the fact that statins don't reduce your risk to zero, number one.
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Number two is it's becoming very clear that lifestyle is extremely important.
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By that I mean if you are not fit, cardiovascular fitness, being active and can walk, if you do not follow a good diet,
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eating good foods, then the statin benefits are severely limited,
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meaning uh in one large study of people on statins not on statins
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if they weren't eating well eating like a mediterranean diet the 40 percent of people
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that were a lot of the bottom part of the eating
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structure so to speak got no benefit from statins whatsoever in reducing heart attack
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or stroke so you can overeat your statin is
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that right yeah uh so it's not it's a myth that if you're taking a statin, you can eat anything you want.
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That is absolutely not true.
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In fact, if you do anything you want, you may as well not take the statin.
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I mean, it really doesn't help you much.
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And if I have patients that I put them into two categories, one is people with disease.
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If they've had a stroke, they had a positive stress test, they've had a stent, they really need a statin.
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And everybody agrees about that.
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The second group are the ones that don't have disease.
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They never had a heart attack, never had chest pain.
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They don't have, you know, any narrowing of their arteries.
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Diabetes?
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Yeah, even diabetes, because so many people are getting diabetes now, that that's not enough.
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And those folks, I say, listen, you have two choices, either take a pill or change your lifestyle.
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And to me, it's a no -brainer.
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If you'll change the lifestyle, that's so much better than taking a pill.
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Are patients wanting to change their lifestyle and take a pill?
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Yeah.
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Oh, sure.
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No, they want to do that.
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And oftentimes we'll, we will go along that route and say, okay, you're, you're not eating correctly.
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You're not being active.
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You're still smoking.
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Why don't we start you on a pill to lower your cholesterol and also have you start working on your lifestyle.
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The problem is you can't change your lifestyle overnight.
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It takes months to years.
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Say, bring you back in nine months, 12 months, eating differently, being active.
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If you've really lowered your cholesterol a lot with the medicine and you've done nothing to change your lifestyle, then it's all the medicine.
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We say, okay, let's keep you on the medicine.
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But if you come back in a year and you've really changed your lifestyle, you're starting to be active.
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You're walking every day now.
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You give up the cigarettes.
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You're eating more fruits and vegetables.
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and you're getting better with your cholesterol, say, listen, maybe we can back off on this pill because you've changed your lifestyle so much.
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That may be all you need.
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Would you say
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that there are a fair number of people in this country who are taking the statin who really don't need
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it or shouldn't be taking it?
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Well, I think there are a lot of people
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that are taking it that are taking it to the exclusion of changing their lifestyle.
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They think if I take this pill, I can eat anything I want.
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And that's just not true.
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What are some of the statins? side effects that patients experience with statins?
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I mean, is dementia one of them?
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Dementia is not one of them.
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We've all had patients that have had problems remembering things, but if you look at big studies, it doesn't seem to be a problem.
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The big issue is two things.
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One is muscle aches.
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A lot of people get muscle aches.
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It's very interesting.
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If you tell people what they're on, it's a statin, they get more aches than if they don't know they're on a statin.
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But clearly, I've had patients, and I myself have been on six different statins.
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I couldn't wake up.
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I couldn't get out of bed one morning.
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I was so stiff.
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I thought I had rheumatoid arthritis.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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And so I stopped it on my own.
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It went away.
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I started up and it came back.
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So I believe that it's real.
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Number two issue to worry about is diabetes.
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Now, if you take a statin, you have a higher chance of becoming a diabetic.
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However, only people that become diabetics on a statin are the ones that were going to become one anyway.
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And they become it about three months earlier on the statin.
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There are people that have high blood sugars.
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They're obese.
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They have a big punch they have metabolic syndrome.
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Is it true that if you are diabetic you shouldn't be on a statin?
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No, that's not true.
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That is not true.
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If you're diabetic, your risk for heart disease is higher, so those are the ones we try to get on statins.
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Didn't you tell us once that
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almost 50 % of people who are in the emergency room with a heart attack have diabetes?
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Yeah, it's almost that high because it's just a huge instance of the population now that has diabetes.
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All related to obesity?
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Almost all related to obesity.
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And it's interesting, when a man becomes a diabetic, his risk for heart disease always goes up a little bit.
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When a woman becomes a diabetic, it really goes up a lot.
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Now, how do you explain that?
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Well, probably because we've got a bunch of middle -aged men with big paunches
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that are that far away from being a diabetic, and women are a little different.
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Ah, interesting.
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We've got just a minute or so remaining.
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I want to ask you about coconut oil, because it's gotten so popular.
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Not only you eat it you spread it around you use
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it for massage oil you drink
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it you whatever give us the lowdown on coconut oil is it all
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it's cracked up to be keep coconut oil on your skin don't put
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it in your body there was a study probably 40 years ago tom
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and tracy where they looked at giving people lard or butter
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or tallow you know fat from animals or coconut oil guess
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which one raised your bad cholesterol the most coconut really oh
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so delicious yes well coconut water is a little different it's you know watered down
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but i've had patients that come in
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and take a tablespoon of oil a day they said doctor
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i've heard it was good for wrinkles yeah well
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you get sort of greasy all over don't you all right there's the lowdown on cholesterol lowering statin drugs
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and also on coconut oil from Mayo Clinic preventive cardiologist, Dr. Stephen Kopetsky.
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Always glad to have you on the program.
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Thanks for being here.
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Thank you.
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Vocabolario e note di pronuncia per questa lezione
Questa lezione di conversazione si basa sul video “Statin Misinformation: Mayo Clinic Radio”. Le parole che ritornano più spesso: statin, cholesterol, lifestyle, diabetic, coconut. Questo video contiene 148 frasi e 1530 parole da ripetere con lo shadowing. Il parlato dura 7:52. Chi parla va veloce, circa 194 parole al minuto: aspettati suoni legati e ridotti. Solo il 80% delle parole rientra nelle 3.000 più comuni dell’inglese, quindi il lessico è impegnativo.
Vocaboli chiave di questo video
15 parole del video che vale la pena imparare, con pronuncia e significato:
| Parola | Pronuncia | Significato |
|---|---|---|
| cholesterol sostantivo | /kəˈlɛstəɹɒl/ | colesterolo |
| lifestyle sostantivo | /ˈlaɪfˌstaɪl/ | stile di vita |
| diabetes sostantivo | /ˌdaɪəˈbiːtiːz/ | diabete |
| coconut sostantivo | /ˈkəʊ.kə.nʌt/ | noce di cocco |
| pill sostantivo | /pɪl/ | pillola, compressa |
| muscle sostantivo | /ˈmʌs.əl/ | muscolo |
| obesity sostantivo | /ə(ʊ)ˈbiːsɪti/ | obesità |
| dementia sostantivo | /dɪˈmɛnʃə/ | demenza |
| plaque sostantivo | /plæk/ | placca, piastrina |
| artery sostantivo | /ˈɑɹ.təɹ.i/ | arteria |
| topic sostantivo | /ˈtɑpɪk/ | tema, categoria |
| crack sostantivo | /kɹæk/ | crepa, fessura |
| butter sostantivo | /ˈbʌtɚ/ | burro, butirro |
| narrow aggettivo | /ˈnæɹəʊ/ | stretto, angusto |
| commonly avverbio | /ˈkɑmənli/ | comunemente, frequentemente |
I phrasal verb che sentirai
| Parola | Pronuncia | Significato |
|---|---|---|
| go up verbo | salire | |
| come back verbo | tornare | |
| come up verbo | venire fuori, emergere | |
| give up verbo | arrendersi | |
| go away verbo | partire, andarsene | |
| turn out verbo | risultare | |
| wake up verbo | /ˌweɪk ˈʌp/ | svegliarsi |
Frasi da ripetere
Frasi brevi e complete del video che puoi riutilizzare nella conversazione di tutti i giorni:
- I mean, it really doesn't help you much.
- The problem is you can't change your lifestyle overnight.
- We say, okay, let's keep you on the medicine.
- You're walking every day now.
- I mean, is dementia one of them?
La grammatica di questo video
Le strutture che chi parla usa di più, con le parole esatte del video:
| Struttura | Nel video |
|---|---|
| Present perfect have/has + participio passato — un’azione passata che conta ancora adesso | have been sold · they've had · you've really lowered |
| Forma passiva be + participio passato — conta ciò che accade, non chi lo fa | was called · have been sold |
Pronuncia a cui fare attenzione
Chi parla usa 52 contrazioni e forme ridotte, come you're, don't, they're. Pronunciale nella forma breve, così come le senti.
- I suoni “th”: myth /mɪθ/, arthritis /ɑːˈθɹ(a)ɪtɪs/
- I suoni “sh” e “zh”: dementia /dɪˈmɛnʃə/, delicious /dɪˈlɪ.ʃəs/, medication /mɛdɪˈkeɪʃən/, massage /məˈsɑ(d)ʒ/, prescription /pɹəˈskɹɪp.ʃən/
- Parole lunghe — attenzione all’accento: cholesterol /kəˈlɛstəɹɒl/, obesity /ə(ʊ)ˈbiːsɪti/, controversy /kənˈtɹɒv.ə.si/, differently /ˈdɪf.ə.ɹənt.li/, medication /mɛdɪˈkeɪʃən/
I suoni difficili per chi parla italiano:
- Consonante finale — senza aggiungere una vocale dopo: diabetes /ˌdaɪəˈbiːtiːz/, coconut /ˈkəʊ.kə.nʌt/, plaque /plæk/, topic /ˈtɑpɪk/, crack /kɹæk/
- /æ/ — più aperta della “e”: plaque /plæk/, crack /kɹæk/, narrow /ˈnæɹəʊ/, clarity /ˈklæɹ.ɪ.ti/, cardiovascular /ˌkɑːdi.əʊˈvæskjʊlə(ɹ)/
Come esercitarsi con questo video
- Ascolta tutto il video una volta senza parlare e annota le parole che non conosci.
- Inizia a velocità 0,75×, fai shadowing frase per frase e torna alla velocità normale quando diventa facile.
- Registrati e confronta con l’originale, facendo attenzione a parole come cholesterol, lifestyle, diabetes.
Cos'è la tecnica dello Shadowing?
Shadowing è una tecnica di apprendimento delle lingue supportata da studi scientifici, originariamente sviluppata per la formazione dei traduttori professionisti e resa popolare dal poliglotta Dr. Alexander Arguelles. Il metodo è semplice ma potente: ascolti un audio in inglese di madrelingua e lo ripeti immediatamente ad alta voce — come un'ombra che segue il parlante con un ritardo di solo 1–2 secondi. A differenza dell'ascolto passivo o degli esercizi di grammatica, lo shadowing costringe il tuo cervello e i muscoli della bocca a elaborare e riprodurre simultaneamente i modelli di discorso reale. La ricerca dimostra che migliora significativamente la precisione della pronuncia, l'intonazione, il ritmo, il discorso connesso, la comprensione dell'ascolto e la fluidità del parlato — rendendolo uno dei metodi più efficaci per la preparazione alla prova di speaking dell'IELTS e per la comunicazione reale in inglese.