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I'm a little bit tired.

Why don't I like search for this artist or...

We are honored today to host a very special discussion delving into the profound role art plays in our daily lives.

First again I would like to introduce RM of 21st century pop icons BTS.

You can enter the stage in a second.

And as many of you know, BTS has not only dominated the music charts worldwide, but also garnered prestigious accolades.

Beyond his groundbreaking musical career with BTS and his impactful solo work, RM is renowned as an art enthusiast and a collector.

Celebrated for his insightful perspectives on art, he's also recognized as an Artnet art innovator

and a significant patron of the arts wielding considerable influence in the art world

and now please once again big up for RM

that was so long thank you it's going to be even longer

when we start a conversation with Sofia Monteiro next up the head curator for Samsung Europe's art store

and we are truly looking forward for this discussion please Sophia enter the stage

so now finally let's make this a dialogue

and stop the monologue from our side i'm very pleased to share the stage with both of you

and RM i would say we start with a very broad

question in the beginning how do you perceive the role of

art in your daily life we all know it's very important

but if you could elaborate a little bit on that actually

that is the hardest question um i think art is already

embedded in many aspects of our lives like you know for

example like you know like we know like literature architecture um cinemas and also music which i'm really included in

and um but

when we see art i think a lot of people a lot of audience think treated it like it's a

that's a very very um like a high level of something

but you know art is already here in our insides

and um i think it's everywhere

so you know we live in a building we listen to music

when we take a shower

so i just you know like before we start this session i just hope

that people just could be you know could realize like art

is everywhere in our lives yeah i completely agree with

that perspective and i actually think

that that's exactly what samsung art store is trying to do

it's to be subtle a subtle presence within someone's daily life

so whether you're coming back from work and you want to watch a movie

or maybe you want to come back from work

and put a an artwork on your tv maybe you're looking for something some peace of mind

and it's about that subtle involvement of art within your life.

I actually was thinking on the same topic as well, RM, what you just mentioned about kind of living with art.

Have you ever found yourself turning into art to find some escapism or some mental peace during a difficult time?

I think, you know, art is every basic things in life like eating and sleeping, right?

It's the next chapter of every basic levels of life, like living.

And I started, actually, I didn't start my career as music.

I started with literature.

And I just got into this genre called rap.

And I was really impressed that, you know, like some very romantic guys were saying like rap stands for rhythm and poetry.

So if I do rap, and this is also in literature, like poetry.

So that's how I started music.

BTS was, I've been doing this job as a professional musician for 12 years and I was,

sometimes I had my like barnouts and slums and I had plenty of time doing tours in Chicago.

My first museum was Chicago Art Institute and just an idea popped up in my mind,

why don't I just go to the museum and spend some time and see some maybe Monet or Gau.

And I was like shocked to see all of those details and textures of a real painting.

So I was really impressed.

And actually, especially for fine art, my mental piece is that I don't get jealous.

Like sometimes when I listen to like great musicians' albums, I get really jealous and I just can't be like objective.

But when I see the art or like Basel,

I just, I find peace because my drawing sucks and I'm not good at it at all.

So yeah, this is my personal thing.

Yeah, absolutely.

I think actually what you're saying is kind of a form of escapism, which is common for people who enjoy looking at art.

and yeah I believe that this is a crucial point

because what you're mentioning is kind of going to a museum or going to a gallery

whereas with Samsung Art Store you're able to do

that from home a little bit

and it can be a great entry point into art

so coming to

that realization of why don't I do this as often with Samsung Art TVs you're able to do

that on a daily basis and rotate it very frequently and connect with art in that way

I also just think it's important for art institutions

and technology to think about young people and how they are accessing art and finding mediums that resonate to them.

Would lead us to the next question, which fits kind of perfectly.

How do you think people can find emotional balance through art in their daily lives, even at home?

What does art provoke hates in your own home?

Like I said, a lot of people think that art is a hard thing and like you just need to study.

It's sort of true, right?

Once you get to know all the histories and the backgrounds and the narratives,

it's more of an intellectual experience and really, you know, interesting point.

But sometimes I just love the experience you just look at some random art piece

and you just love the colors and the details and the shells of the art piece.

And so in terms of that, you can, my starting point was just to display the posters of the movies

that I like or the like very cool exhibitions from the past, the posters.

I started with it and then I just jumped to the prints and etchings.

So, and we got this TV, actually I've used the frame for,

I've been using the frame for like three weeks and friends of mine, they know I'm an art lover and they just come to the house

and there's this wooden frame and they mistake it as a new media art.

So they just didn't know it was a TV.

So living with art, you know, just by the posters or maybe technology, I think we could, like you said,

it could be a bridge to access.

Because for a lot of people, a museum, a gallery, and what we call an art is a very, very, they think it's a very hard thing.

But I just tell, if you decide to live with art, you can live with the posters or technologies and prints.

And maybe that could be a really great entry just to be an art lover.

And art makes you happy.

I agree.

Beautiful as that.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I agree with what you're saying.

I think for a lot of our users who buy the frame, they're aesthetically driven, but they might feel intimidated by not knowing enough about art to engage with it

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or to even like it.

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What I love about Samsung Art Store is that it's visual first.

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So it's similar to a gallery or a museum experience, where you see the visual you get drawn to it and then you can find out within the platform what it means.

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And it might trigger those questions of who made this and why did they make it?

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And yeah, that kind of also leads me to the next question, which is, have you ever found yourself looking deeper

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into someone's work and building a strong connection to their work or their story?

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Do you take that sort of inspiration?

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Of course, it's really important.

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But sometimes there are, since there are billions of artists, sometimes I'm just an art fan.

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You know, when my life is really exhausting, I just sometimes just don't want to know everything.

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But mostly, I really prefer to study the backgrounds and the narratives

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if I really like the art piece because like I said, it's a very whole new kind of experience.

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But I just want to tell the people, you just don't have to do it every time.

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Like there's a pressure, you have to be really aware of everything,

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but it's been only like seven years since I've got into this art world.

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But maybe there are maybe like 50,

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70 artists that I really can tell the people that I sort of know.

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But, you know, there are more than millions of artists that you just can't figure out.

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So I just hope the people just have the chance to just look at it

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and just why don't I like search for this artist or why did this guy paint this thing?

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Like sort of that.

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You said it very nice.

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Art makes me happy.

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this as a quote I really love it.

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It makes me happy.

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That's true.

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It's wonderful.

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Besides that and besides knowing more about the artists,

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what motivates you to explore art through physical visits or digital platforms different?

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Seven years ago, since I told you my art experience started from Chicago and I just,

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I didn't think, I never expected like this kind of experience like

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because art um going to the museums and galleries was just a hobby

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and now i became an ambassador for some art tv

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and i just can't say i don't know much things about

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art i use my instagram um you know i like

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if i like it i share it there's there's no any kinds of like political

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or like profitable relationship between my Instagram feed or story and some,

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you know, all the political things.

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Just like if I really like it, I just want to show the people.

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And very thankfully, fans really take it serious and they go to the museums I've uploaded.

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They share the pieces.

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And they really, it's been seven years and they really, A lot of people started to really take it serious.

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So I'm really grateful for that.

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It's a wonderful experience to be a person like that.

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So what I'm trying to say is that my Instagram curation,

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it's not a curation, I mean like my Instagram feed was like the RTV.

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So they, I don't know all of their backgrounds, but they

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were able to approach a different artist like even Korean by my Instagram

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and it's been seven years

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so like I was like thinking am I am I being

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too stubborn for art like I have my own taste I have my own kind of color

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but this art stream system

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and RTV showed me a lot of different artists like from all over the world like like the scene

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and it was a really cool experience to look back on my prejudice or my stubborn taste

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individually personally yeah yeah so uh so shortly in short sorry i'm too talkative and um It's wonderful.

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This digital platform is a,

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I think, seriously, I think it's a great bridge to approach art because a lot of people, maybe most of the people in the world,

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they don't have the cultural like environments.

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Like especially in Korea, if you don't live in Seoul,

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you just really, it's not easy to go to the museums or galleries to see the art piece.

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And maybe same for a lot of the rest of the world.

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So I think you start with digital platforms

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and maybe you plan for your visit to the museums or the galleries or your favorite artists.

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I think it's a beautiful process to be an art man.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I agree with that.

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I mean, it resonates to that as well because I didn't grow up in a city where art was very accessible.

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But if you live in cities like Paris, New York, London, you can see exhibitions.

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But millions of our users don't get that type of access.

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Of course not.

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So that's really where technology can come in and help with that.

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On the topic of curation, maybe, Aram, you're well known as a curator yourself.

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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You will become even more famous as a curator.

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What challenges do you face curating art for your personal space?

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and how could you already mentioned a little bit

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but how could technology um address these challenges

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that you have i'm not a curator um i didn't have my major in art history

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or something i'm just an art fan

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but i think in 2025 everybody could be a curator by their instagram like you see the feed

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and that's your gallery that's your own space the gallery started from like like galleries start from corridors

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and it's really fun to watch people like trying to show their taste

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like their it's you know it's like a it's like an

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individual branding for every people my challenge is um i really want to build a personal personal space um in

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so like i don't know maybe in five years i'm seriously looking for a place to build it

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but um i just want to bring Actually, in my perspective, I don't think there are not much museums

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or places or spaces that you can like aesthetically or like appreciate.

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So in the future, I just want to bring the keywords together that are really important,

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like maybe personality and universality and east and west and old and new, all those things.

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I just want to bring them together in my perspective because I'm not a museum curator or an art historian.

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So I think if I do it, it's going to be more fresh.

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And I don't have any relationship with those critical any sort of things.

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I just want to show the people, you know, in a young man way,

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art outsider, I mean like fine art outsider.

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And I don't think it's going to be really possible to bring all the keywords together, but I'll do my best.

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I think that sounds great.

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I actually think that's exactly what platforms like us try to do.

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Most people have visual instincts already.

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They know what they like.

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And our job as curators is really to serve as art for them.

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And that's what we do with Samsung Art Store, is to just try to play with these elements of discoverability.

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Our job is not to tell people what to like, but to just expose them to art and give them the access to view works, as you said, from all over the world.

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You want to continue with your question?

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I think you have one that's really important for you.

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Yeah, I was going to ask as well, you're an artist yourself, and I was going to ask, what type of features do you think platforms like Samsung Art Store

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and digital platforms can do in order to make the art experience more rich for users and for artists themselves as well?

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In 2020 like all we know Covid happened

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and there were a lot of things like metaverse and and maybe you guys all remember all those AI things,

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and like metaverse exhibitions, all those things.

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I didn't really, I didn't enjoy it that much

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because I really think the personal direct three-dimensional experience is really important

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but it's just my answer is the same digital platform could

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be a really cool access you know like these days alpha generation they all just want to be like youtubers

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or like influencers and they are really close with the technology.

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So if you have your own frame in your living room,

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like I'm doing, it's really a fun experience to actually buy an art piece.

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It was sort of different.

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And I'm really sure that these platforms could really help the open another world for our people and also,

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you know, not our people just to have the have an access for the art world.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I think you've mentioned also art streams as a way of discovering art and discovering new artists through the platform.

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And that's exactly what we try to do with kind of the access to technology in the art space.

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It's really feature artworks that haven't been exposed and with the art streams for us, we do monthly curations.

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We focus a lot on season, team, mood, that are very easily reachable to all users.

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Everyone can relate to mood and season.

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And a lot of the times what we do with Samsung Art Store is

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that we try to do curation that is approachable.

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So, for example, we'll do, let's say, Spring Abstracted because Spring is an easy team for users.

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However, abstract or conceptual art can be quite difficult to grasp.

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So we find ways to make curation quite friendly so that

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when you go into the curation itself you're able to relate easy

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and and then really enjoy more from the art piece itself.

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I think what many people here wonder and me as well is

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if you have of course you have

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but what kind of art you have displayed in your home

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maybe on your frame could you give us a little insight maybe some tips what you would display?

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I can't give you any insights because I'm just a, I'm not that insightful person.

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I'm actually, I, me personally, I prefer the very traditional media like paintings and sculptures and drawings.

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But that's because I live in a pop music industry,

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which is really fast and hectic and it really got consoled and pieced and comforted by the,

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what we say, like, modernists or the attitudes for those old people, actually, because, like, this industry is,

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like, so fast and, like, consuming.

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And, but as a young artist, I'm 30 years old, I feel sometimes,

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like, responsible just to, like what's really happening in 2025

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because the future is theirs like the generation z and alpha

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so i i do study and like you said i do study in spotify too

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because my algorithm tells me like yo it's tuesday morning

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and it's cloudy you better listen to um radiohead or party shed Or, you know, maybe it's Friday night.

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It's the sky's clear.

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Maybe you should listen to techno, Fred again, Fortet.

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So, but a system like our stream,

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you just, it breaks the borders and tells me all those new artists like that I'd never known.

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So, I think it's great.

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I hope that another, the other music platforms have like some system like that to to study.

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There's so many topics we would love to cover

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but time is running so I suggest Sophia we would skip maybe to the last two questions from from your side.

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Great.

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I love.

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Yeah absolutely.

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We were curious about your art space in Seoul

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and would like to know if that's gonna involve a mix of music and art.

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Yeah I just gave you a hint

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but there is a Korean saying called It means to be modest yet refined and to be elegant without being excessive.

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I just wanted to be a place that where anyone else can come in,

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feel at ease and experience its beauty.

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And I also hope it can be a space where Korean artists feel really proud of.

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Because I found my Korean blood once I got into the American music industry.

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So I just want to connect my personal identity with that eventually, I guess.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I can totally see that echoing through your work as well.

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Korean art is known for so much depth and discipline.

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So yeah that's pretty much the last question.

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Thank you very much.

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Awesome thank you RM.

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It was truly an insightful conversation and to learn all of this was really really nice.

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Your profound influence on art.

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It's really really really nice and how art is part of our life.

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I really take away art makes me happy

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and I think this is really what it's about and bringing

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that happiness to our home through The Frame and Samsung RTV is an amazing opportunity.

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I'd like to extend my sincere gratitude

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that you took the time after your military service to come here

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and show up in front of all of these people and gracing us with your presence.

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Thank you very much.

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A big round of applause for RM.

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All makes me happy.

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Слово	Произношение	Значение
curator существительное	/kjʊəˈɹeɪtə(ɹ)/	кура́тор
poster существительное	/ˈpoʊstɚ/	по́стер, афи́ша
escapism существительное	/ɪˈskeɪpɪzəm/	эскапизм
keyword существительное	/ˈkiː.wɜːd/	ключево́е сло́во
metaverse существительное	/ˈmɛt.ə.vɝs/	метавселе́нная
resonate глагол	/ˈɹɛz.əˌneɪt/	резони́ровать
outsider существительное	/ˌaʊtˈsaɪdəɹ/	аутса́йдер, посторо́нний
stubborn прилагательное	/ˈstʌbɚn/	упо́рный, упря́мый
impress глагол	/ɪmˈpɹɛs/	производи́ть впечатле́ние, произвести́ впечатле́ние
profound прилагательное	/pɹəˈfaʊnd/	глубо́кий
musician существительное	/mjuˈzɪʃən/	музыка́нт, музыка́нтка
artwork существительное	/ˈɑɹtˌwɝk/	иску́сство, произведение искусства
insight существительное	/ˈɪnsaɪ̯t/	интроспе́кция, инса́йт
accolade существительное	/ˈæk.əˌleɪd/	похвала́, панеги́рик
approachable прилагательное	/əˈpɹəʊ.t͡ʃə.bəl/	досту́пный, достижи́мый

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Конструкция	В видео
Present Perfect Continuous have/has been + -ing — действие началось раньше и продолжается	I've been doing · I've been using
Present Perfect have/has + причастие прошедшего времени — прошлое действие, важное сейчас	has not only dominated · Have you ever found · it's been
Пассивный залог be + причастие прошедшего времени — важно, что происходит, а не кто это делает	are honored · is renowned · been exposed
Придаточные определительные who / which + предложение — уточнение о человеке или предмете	escapism, which is · question, which is

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Звуки «th»: enthusiast /ɪnˈθuːziˌæst/, theirs /ðɛɚz/, algorithm /ˈælɡəɹɪðm̩/, rhythm /ˈɹɪð.əm/
Звуки «sh» и «zh»: curation /kjəˈɹeɪʃən/, musician /mjuˈzɪʃən/, realization /ˌɹɪə.laɪˈzeɪ.ʃən/, dimensional /daɪˈmɛn.ʃə.nəl/, genre /ˈ(d)ʒɑnɹə/
Длинные слова — следите за ударением: escapism /ɪˈskeɪpɪzəm/, approachable /əˈpɹəʊ.t͡ʃə.bəl/, enthusiast /ɪnˈθuːziˌæst/, influencer /ˈɪnflu.ənsə(ɹ)/, innovator /ˈɪnəˌveɪtəɹ/

Звуки, трудные для русскоязычных:

/w/ — губы округлены, это не /v/: keyword /ˈkiː.wɜːd/, artwork /ˈɑɹtˌwɝk/
/h/ — лёгкий выдох, а не русское «х»: hectic /ˈhɛktɪk/, historian /hɪˈstɔɹi.ən/, hobby /ˈhɑ.bi/, hint /hɪnt/
Звонкие согласные в конце слова — не оглушайте их: keyword /ˈkiː.wɜːd/, profound /pɹəˈfaʊnd/, accolade /ˈæk.əˌleɪd/, monologue /ˈmɑnəˌlɔɡ/, talkative /ˈtɔ.kə.ɾɪv/

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