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welcome to another episode of out of the pods i'm dt
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and i'm natalie
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and we are in dp's apartment i swear to god it's winter up in here why is it
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so cold well i i don't like the heat
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i go from ac to ac baby i keep it at 68 at all times is
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that 68 yeah i feel like it's weird i have to first of all i can't sleep
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if it's not 68 like if and if the fan's not going like
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if it's winter
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and it's like 10 degrees out my fan will still be on you are joking no
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i'm serious during the winter time i will adjust like
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because i won't turn on the heat
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because you know i'm frugal af i was literally about to say
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that you're so frugal that you're like what's the most cost effective temperature no literally
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that that's me
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and i was like how do i like you know like conserve energy up in this joint
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so like in the winter time like i will sleep in like 67 68
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because it gets pretty cold i'm on the like 40th floor of an apartment building our apartment building
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so like my place gets chilly and it's floor to ceiling window
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so it gets extra chilly it does get chilly
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but then in the summertime I will let my apartment get to like 75 degrees
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sometimes 78 I will sit in there so that my body adjusts
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so when I like walk outside I'm not like it doesn't feel
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that hot you know yeah I I understand
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because you're like letting your body acclimate but I'm like nope
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because wherever I'm going I hope there's an AC honestly that's crazy you know what this adds up though
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because every time we're filming at your apartment plus we have lights up too you know yeah
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and i'm like fucking burning in
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that bit well we have to turn off the ac
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because the ones in our apartment building are
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so loud they sound like a ghost yeah and weirdly i've adjusted to
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that noise and
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if i don't have it like i can't fall asleep no
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i need the fan noise are you people are like
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that you need a fan noise because
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or like white noise yeah thank you for
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that explanation i suppose i can't wait to go back to my apartment that's a cool nice
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and like comfortable 75
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that sounds miserable please hang out with me do i've been um
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you you know who billy eilish is right yeah of course
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so she just came out with a new album and i'm
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so good it's so good this entire morning i've been listening blasting it
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and just you know cleaning whatever
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and it made me think about how she did a shout out to me back in the day oh
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you talked about this on the podcast dude i am going back
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this october to chicago like she's coming to chicago and i am so excited
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and i'm hoping for another shout out from billy
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you're gonna tag her 20 times she's like i'm not i'm not reposting this bitch again
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so if you guys don't know um billy eilish reposted deep d story
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and she was like deep d with like a smiley face it was like a little crying face oh oh
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so billy eilish watched her season of love is wine honestly
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i wonder what she thought about shake she probably clearly hates him
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and then especially with this new album she like is very much talking about her sexuality
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and she's into women she's like i could eat
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that girl for lunch and i'm like billy
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so we're getting like a really vulnerable billy
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that's what i say to my salad i was like i could eat you
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wait when i'm cutting up my tomatoes i was like i was like about to eat you
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but do you ever talk to your food no
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but i do talk to plants like you pretend your food has like feelings so
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when i'm like chopping up like some tomatoes
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i'm like i'm about to eat you little babies little baby tomatoes
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that's sinister that's actually really sinister wait no one does this this has to be normal
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that's not like you know when you like keep yourself entertained yeah like
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when i cut up some carrots i'm like yeah
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if you're five you are you are 31 ma 'am 32
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i'm sorry 32 you're welcome see look at me do i look 31 though you do you look 25
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you don't do that for real no that's the weirdest thing i've ever heard like
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when you put little pasta shells in boiling water
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you're like no absolutely you like act like you are a monster
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and you're putting you know like
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if pot okay yeah i think you need this weird no
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it's not weird i think it's kind of no i know
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but is this is is this like you know like saying something about me like psychologically
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it is like i'm unwell a little bit
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i was about to tell you you need to get out of your apartment
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and you need to make some new friends i have no friends
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that i talk to my food i mean please don't make any new friends
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and be like i can't wait to cut you up i don't like
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when i cut the tomatoes to put into like you know with the lettuce like into the bowl
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i'm always like you're joining your friends
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the funniest part about this not like out loud
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but in my mind i'm not like that crazy
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but in my mind i'm like oh concocting a story got
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it it's internal about how i'm about to eat these live
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you know fruits and vegetables okay
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because i literally just pictured
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you at your kitchen like talking to your veggies be like i can't wait to cut you up no
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that voice is what happens but in my head
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because that'd be weird if i just said it out loud
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and sometimes going back to like being kind of crazy
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i pretend i'm on a cooking show do you ever do
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that that i love like i pretend i'm like martha stewart no honestly
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and i was like this is my favorite dish even though i'm making for the first time
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i'd be like i make this i've been making this since i was 12.
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and again this is all internal dialogue sometimes sometimes some words come out no um me
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and my mom used to watch cooking shows all the time growing up so
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that was my favorite thing ever i was like oh my god
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i want my own cooking show oh yeah i thought i could be rachel ray i remember watching
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that woman and being like rachel i'm coming for your job
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and i was like 10 years old i like that i like that ambition
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look at me now yeah look at you know rachel watch out
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this podcast is the step for me to take her job is she even on food network anymore
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i don't think so but she does like
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so many celebrity like i don't
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i don't who watches the food network anymore like i feel like no one watches cable
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yeah that's true i don't even have cable same
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i don't even watch tv i realized i have i pay for youtube tv
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but i barely watch it but just in case there's like a sporting event
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or like a award ceremony
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i'm like i don't want to be scrambling to figure out where i go watch it
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so i'm like i need
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that is this gonna get me in trouble you don't do like the free trial over
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and over again i but like how many new email address can i have unlimited unlimited infinity in my book
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i probably have 16 you're such a little scammer no i love a good free trial that's my favorite thing
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but i just don't want to keep track of all those email addresses i think it's too much for me
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so what i do is i won't say the email address i use
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but i just change the last number
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so it's like bam bam bam one bam bam bam two bam bam bam three
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and then you go to 16 17 18 i'm sure i'm gonna go up to 100 oh my god is
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that so bad that's so that's it seems
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so inconvenient you know always delete an email like you could get rid of it
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so it's not like you're like an email address hogger yeah
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but you always are not hoarding all these emails yeah
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but you always have to provide a credit card
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and i'm like that's too much effort my for an email my purse is way over no
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when you do a free trial oh yeah you know what that's where you got me
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because i'm like i'm sorry i'm not getting up
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i i mean look i will get up for the 9 .99 i'm gonna save okay well
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but i'm pretty sure youtube tv
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or what is it called yeah it's youtube tv isn't
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that 49 a month something like that but But I also let my parents.
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That's so crazy.
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I know, but I let my parents use it.
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So as long as somebody in the family is using it, I'm like, cool.
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Because they came up with this new thing because my brother was the one paying for it.
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But it's like, you're not in your location.
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And I'm like, well, duh, he's in Texas.
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I'm over here.
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Oh, my God.
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Capitalism.
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That's why you need to scheme the system, man.
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See, that's why YouTube is smart.
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Yeah, we don't like capitalism.
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Yeah, I don't.
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I don't.
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It hurts my soul the fact that, oh, my gosh, I went to Whole Foods
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and I had to pay $3 for a cucumber for was it organic yes an organic english cucumber i love
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but i was like why why has it gotten to this
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point our ancestors would be like three dollars for a cucumber it's
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because we live in the concrete jungle
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if we lived like for example my parents live in the burbs they have
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so much like fresh stuff growing
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they have like where like in their bur in their at their house
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they have like a little garden you can like grow your own things
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i mean they're not growing english cucumbers well that's what i'm saying well
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when they go to whole foods to buy one it's gonna be three actually it's 3 .99 yeah
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that shook me to my core i i put
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that cucumber back i was like you know what i don't even need
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this cucumber i was like you it's not even worth
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it no that's crazy that's what sucks about america in general right now is
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that like processed foods like is
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so much cheaper than fresh foods like it's it pay
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it's like expensive to be healthy yeah like instant ramen was 99 cents
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so did I buy that instead yeah and did I eat
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that for dinner instead of my cucumbers hell yeah
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I did I have the funniest story for you yes tell me okay
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so I was talking to my guy friend I better laugh
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so hard at this story okay like lower your expectations
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because the way I deliver it I'm not sure
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but okay tell me why I was talking to him
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and he is like out there in the streets dating he's like a little flirty butterfly
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I would say oh I've seen yeah you know yeah
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I know exactly who you're talking about tell me why this man the other day we were talking about relationships
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and I'm like hey like why aren't you like in relationships like clearly
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you find really wholesome good girls yeah he's really good looking he is vivacious
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If I hear you say vivacious one more time, I will lose it.
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I use that word very sparingly, though.
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But he is very, like, vivacious and charismatic.
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Very good looking.
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Nothing about this man is vivacious.
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He was on a Facebook group called Are We Dating the Same People?
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Yeah.
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And then he got so excited because it was a positive thing on there.
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He goes, look at me.
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I'm wholesome as hell.
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Someone posted his photo in this Facebook group.
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I don't know exactly what it's called.
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Is it Are We Dating the Same Men?
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Are We Dating the Same Guy?
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Okay.
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And it's Chicago -based.
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and people are like no but he is
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so hot like oh my gosh like so good looking
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and he was thrilled about it he was like showing off about it
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so thrilled but he's a good looking guy
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if I'm just setting the stage yeah yeah no he's a good guy
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and that's why I'm always like bro date this girl like she's
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so cute and she's like would get along with your family
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so well blah blah blah
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and he told me the reason why he would never date her is
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because she has a dog
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and normally he's not like a oh I'm not a dog guy like he loves dogs
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but this man is like a clean freak like everything in his apartment is spotless anytime
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we come over like shoes off at the front door every time we leave he's like swiffering
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and cleaning and disinfecting everything so he's like
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that type of dude shoes off at the front door he sounds Asian no that's why I was like
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so like surprised when he told me that
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because I'm like yeah we as Asians do not wear shoes in the house
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but Americans love to do
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that shit like one of my other girlfriends she'll wear shoes on the couch on the bed
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and I'm like this is like against my culture like against my tradition okay
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this is illegal okay I don't need to be like stereotypical right now
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or generalize on you know race or ethnicity yeah
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but I will say a lot of my white friends allow shoes in the house yeah
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and that's your prerogative do whatever you want
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but in this household nope nope nope nope
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and same with same with my friend
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and he he goes okay one time she came over with her dog
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and already i was paranoid freaking out
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because he's like has his paws everywhere running around
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and then apparently he shut the bedroom door
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so the dog couldn't come inside
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because he's like there's no chance in hell the dog is going to be on the bed
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which i do not agree with that but anyways
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so apparently the dog was like trying to get in
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and started scratching the door and he owns his place
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so he's like he was pissed he lived
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when he woke up the next day and after
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that he was just like yeah I'm done I don't think
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I can ever see you again you are kidding what the heck
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I lost my cool I was like get him a like a not a crate
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but like maybe like a little playpen area or something
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and he goes no there's it's a non -negotiable for me i was like
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that okay okay i want to call him insane
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but oh i hate saying this i feel like this podcast makes me look
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so bad that i'm just gonna say it i'm like
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that too i know i know
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you are that's why i feel like you would resonate with this like guys i'm
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so bad that if there's someone i don't know in my home
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which there has been remember one time i was hanging out with deep these friends
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and they were with a friend that i had never met before yeah
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and i don't know how they all ended up at my place i know how i kind of orchestrated
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that did you i was like everyone come over to my place
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and she goes oh do you mind
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if we go to natalie's she's a few floors up this is
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so bad and i know some of my friends listen
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so sorry about this but literally they were on the way up to my floor
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and i was like go to natalie's and they're knocking on my door
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and i'm sitting here silently i was like do not come in do not
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so terrible and then i'm literally taking a shit
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and someone's like boom boom boom boom and i was like
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so scared and i was just like quietly sitting on my toilet being like you know
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when you're like are the cops here it's like i don't know what to do yeah
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that was not my bad and then i come out i was like hello i just
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and my door was unlocked and they just barged in as i'm taking a shit oh
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Oh my gosh.
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And I got so scared.
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Oh no. But then I heard their voices and I was like, oh, it's deep, these annoying ass friends.
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I was like, nothing to worry about here.
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Hey, they're your friends too now.
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We're in this together, bitch.
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Look, for like, you know, just simplifying the storytelling, I'm just trying to make it like clear.
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Anyway, so there's a friend I didn't know.
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This is so horrible for me to admit, but because I wasn't sure
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if he's someone who washes his hands often after he uses the bathroom i was
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so cautious to see where he was touching like i was like okay
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he touched my refrigerator handles okay he opened one of my drawers
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and in my head i'm like i have to disinfect those areas
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when they all leave that is
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so funny that's exactly how my friend is too that's why he he doesn't take any chances
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because there's so many of us all the time
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and that's our meeting spot he cleans the entire apartment every sunday morning because we leave saturday night ish
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So every Sunday morning, he's like, I know you touched everything in here.
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That's actually so crazy that you did that.
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Is that so crazy?
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That's wild.
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I don't know what's wrong with my brain.
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I mean, I kind of do, but like, no, that's how my brain works.
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That's actually.
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Yeah.
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It's so.
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And literally when you guys all left, I know I got a few drinks with you guys when I came back home.
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Yeah.
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I cleaned everything.
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Like places where I know you guys didn't even step, but I was like, maybe all the spit like from everyone talking like kind of settled
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that is places that is how do you live life
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because your brain is just like crazy yeah
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you're like I don't need friends that's why she talks to her vegetables
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and you know you know where I got
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this from my dad my dad is the same exact way
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his brain works the same exact way the thing is he's never shared the way his brain works yeah
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and I told him about it he goes oh my gosh I feel
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so bad because my brain works the same way yeah
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and he goes did I do this to you no
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he feels like it's a curse no I'm sure he like growing up you probably watched his behaviors
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and like kind of like followed suit
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and plus yeah your brain is probably wired that way too
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so you're like oh yep I'm cleaning everything just like
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that it's it's like nuts okay that is that's
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so crazy he's like that yeah I'm like
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that too a pet is a deal breaker for me yeah I think honestly
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if you can't love someone's pet the way they love them get out of
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that relationship yeah because you can never have a potential partner choose you
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or the pet exactly because it's like they're babies like loving a stepchild yes like
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if you can't love that stepchild like your own you got to get out honestly exactly exactly
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and i think what would i know it comes in a package deal yeah
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and i just know like having a dog
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or i know he doesn't live with me right now
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but having a dog like
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if someone didn't like pixel i would be like i don't like you bro like get the fuck out
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and i never want to see you again like it's
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that serious so what
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so what excuse did he use just he just slow faded oh my god a little bit ish
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because like they weren't like in a relationship
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or anything they were just in the talking stages yeah and
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so when he brought the dog or when she brought the dog over that's
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when he was like i don't think
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i can do this anymore like you're not wifey material anymore okay i feel like it would have been
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so much better if he just told her like hey like it's your dog yeah for slow fading
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because then she's like what's wrong with me yeah uh
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you know what there's a lot of layers to this friend
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i'm like he's he definitely um i try to tell him
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that but he's like nah that's not worth my time
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but i you know what i think it's
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so funny maybe we'll do um a segment in the future on the pod
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and ask our pod besties like what are some reasons what are some crazy reasons you've broken up with somebody.
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I think that would be so funny.
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People are petty.
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People are so petty.
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People will break up over the way someone breathes at night.
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I could imagine that people will probably break up with me as soon as they see that I wear a mouth tape.
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They'd be like, I mean, I want to end our friendship over that, too.
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Yeah, it also makes you look like literally an Avenger.
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I feel like we have to talk about this, but the Ashley Madison documentary that is on Netflix right now,
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Deep D asked me to watch it.
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And you guys know, like I don't watch shows, but this one was crazy.
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It was so good.
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First of all, when I first texted you about it, you're like, isn't that that thing that happened a while ago?
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And it's so funny, but I didn't hear anything about it until this documentary came out.
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Yeah.
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So I heard about it when I was in middle school or high school,
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but it was this huge hacking scandal that happened with the site Ashley Madison, which was this dating site for married people. So crazy.
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Their tagline is what life is short, have an affair.
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Yeah.
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So it's crazy, but
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So the reason why I had heard about it is
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because two of my classmates' dads were exposed for being on that site.
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That's, oh my God, I kind of got chills from that. That sucks.
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So if you guys don't know what I'm talking about, someone hacked this site and you were able to look up who belonged to the site,
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signed up for the site that allows you to have affairs with other married people secretly.
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Yeah.
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And it's insane because it was such an impactful hack probably the most impactful in history of hacking
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because everyone was on a witch hunt
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because they're like oh let me find out about my neighbors like my friend's dad's like
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so they just would like
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and there was what I think by the end of it 36 million users
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which is such a big population of people
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that is crazy no that's insane to me
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and I was just was thinking about it like it sucks
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because watching the documentary I realized people don't want to end their marriage
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they just want extracurricular activities on the side one of the couples
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that are highlighted in this documentary where the husband used ashley madison
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and cheated yeah you know he talks about how he's like i just went
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because i was like bored and wanted just like attention
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so he's chatting with all these women yeah
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and it's like he's trying to build some sort of like get some emotional attention
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so that's the thing he he said too he was like yes it was for attention
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but this guy the christian dad had he was a christian dad he was a christian dad
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and it was like a christian couple that's the that's the image
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that they portrayed um on social media as well
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because they had like a little bit of a following
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they were doing they had a platform yeah they were doing vlogs
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and stuff like that so people were like so bought into them
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and their lifestyle and everything they stood for
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but then you find out this dad is on this site
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and he was like honestly once I got the social media platform I stopped using Ashley Madison
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because he wanted to feel loved or like wanted the attention
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so I was like oh yeah but can I tell you the plot twist of
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that story and sorry if this is a uh spoiler
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so spoiler alert but at the end of it he they she forgave him the wife forgave him
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and they're still together to this day
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and I was like wow wow crazy crazy crazy
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but honestly i feel like the human psychology behind having an affair
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or cheating is so interesting to me because obviously i've been cheated on
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and i did come from a place of understanding with him
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and i was like oh like i understand why you did this
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because our relationship was going x y and z way right
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or and and also because he's a weak man yeah honestly yes
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because he was insecure he was you know weak man needs some validation has no morals truly truly
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but it is there's a side of me
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that understands it I think it's fucked up beyond belief
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but I'm like there's probably so many secrets
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that people like have see I don't understand cheaters oh
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I know you do not no I just don't like I just
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because it takes a lot of like a lot of steps to get to cheating like think about ashley madison
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it's very premeditated
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premeditated yeah um like yeah you have to sign up for the site
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you have to put your credit card information in you have
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to start swiping on women start chatting with them for this site for ashley madison
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you had to i think get credits to chat with different women yep
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you got to get their number meet up with them like all this stuff
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and it's like that's not one mistake that's like a thousand mistakes
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that led to the ultimate like betrayal for me
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so I want to be understanding like I get the reasons why people say they cheated
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when they reflect back but I'm like
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I think that you have to be super weak
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and not respect your partner to cheat right the harder thing to do is
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when you're having feelings like of stepping out of your marriage to stop yourself from doing it
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and seek therapy or seek help or talk to your spouse
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and be like this is what I'm feeling instead
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when you betray somebody break their trust
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and go behind their back that's the fucked up part it's not
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that you're having feelings
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that hey I want to have exciting sex with somebody else yeah yeah
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that's kind of human nature considering there's 36 million people who signed up for this site
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so it's crazy clearly a common thing
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but it's how you handle it you're right it's like you are weak
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if you're gonna buy into it you're strong
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if you're like oh like i want to do this
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but i know
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that i can't you know it's yeah yeah
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that's the it is it's crazy honestly what's even more fucked up about this whole situation is the fact
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that this company duped them
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so much half the time they said they were just talking to bots
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or employees of ashley Madison because not enough women signed up
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There was this woman who got interviewed for the documentary
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and she she's like an adult film star
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and randomly she would see men just coming up to her at the strip club
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that she worked at and they would just be like, here's some flowers.
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And she's like, what the hell?
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Like and since it happened so frequently, she's like, why are you guys coming to me?
449
Like, what is this from?
450
She goes, aren't I talking to you on Ashley Madison?
451
And she's like, no, I'm not on Ashley Madison.
452
So they like duped everyone it's that is
453
so crazy oh it's a huge scandal okay so actually i had to report this facebook page
454
someone was using my photos
455
and like talking to men like scamming men trying to like get them to pay yeah
456
because i had men did i ever tell you about this no
457
i don't think you did okay it was like very like it wasn't a big deal
458
but this is
459
when the show came out it was probably like a few months after our season came out
460
but i had men messaging me being like oh like finally
461
i'm able to find out who you are like blah blah blah like what's your address
462
i want to send you this thing
463
and i was like what the fuck is going on like you know how we get
464
it anyways where there's like some men being like are you looking for your sugar sugar daddy
465
you want to be my sugar baby i was getting like 500 messages a day
466
and i was like what is going on and it was like
467
when i was reading these messages
468
they were acting like they were like we had talked before okay yeah it's very strange
469
and I was like what the heck is going on
470
and then I saw like in some of these messages
471
they would say like oh I messaged you on Facebook how come
472
you're not answering me on Facebook oh my god
473
so I looked myself up on Facebook and I don't have a Facebook account
474
but I found a profile that was using my photos
475
and the name was Natalie Lee which is my full name but it was spelled incorrectly
476
but I was like okay like let me click on this profile all my photos um
477
and I could see how many friends they had
478
and who it was public and it was like 2 ,000 men just oh my god just like
479
yeah and she would post photos
480
and I could see the public comments like people commenting on these photos who whoever I keep saying she
481
but like who knows who it was yeah and yeah
482
so someone was like using my photos to scam men that's insane
483
because first of all you don't get any of these perks
484
but she's using your pictures out or her yeah whoever yeah
485
but it was so gross and the captions were like like look at my sexy tits
486
and i was like first of all i was like
487
i was like what tits
488
and it's like a photo of me in a bathing suit i'm done okay i'm flatter than a table
489
but but the crazy part is whoever was using my photos photoshopped my chest to be bigger that's insane
490
because the audacity to first steal your pictures
491
and then photoshop you is like i wasn't even good enough that's so bad
492
but i'm not gonna lie i was like no i know
493
that's actually kind of flattering i was like wow someone actually used my photos to scam I was like,
494
I was like, wow, I was like, am I good enough?
495
That's actually really shady, but I wasn't good enough in that much because she had to Photoshop my photos.
496
That's so wild.
497
Don't lie to me.
498
Did you did you send your address for some gifts?
499
I mean, did the thought cross my mind?
500
I was going to say out of the 500.
501
What if he's like, I got you a Tesla?
502
It was just like so icky.
503
I was like, what is going on? i just reported the profile though
504
and then it got shut down i think like a week later wait was this pre -show
505
or post -show post -show oh it was post -show
506
that is ballsy because you're clearly a public figure at
507
that point that's how all these men found me yeah that's wild yeah that's crazy
508
because there's probably so many men out there
509
that fantasize about you ew well they fantasize about my photoshopped body okay well yeah
510
and you know natalie with bigger tits i love you know
511
i love a good face you know i love a good photoshop once in a
512
while you know like look i'm i'm not above
513
it like what are you gonna do like i have insecurities
514
too everyone does whoever had the scammy facebook profile of me made my body look
515
so crazy i was so skinny it was like all my photos just photoshopped that's
516
so funny you look at it you're like is
517
that even me she even photoshopped my own face
518
and some of them and i was like she made my eyes bigger
519
and i was like not i was like not too bad listen this wasn't personal this is a business
520
and she had to get that money honey
521
so you know what i'm just kidding i'm not i don't condone
522
that behavior that's not good he's like well on the bright side of things is
523
that nuts no that's actually not so wow i'm glad you figured it out
524
and shut it down it was pretty easy
525
yeah they weren't very smart about it that's why i'm like
526
if you're gonna like scam people like be smarter maybe
527
that's not the tagline no no that's not the tagline
528
i almost sounded like ashley madison life is short having a fair like what a tagline though what a tagline
529
and one of the guys
530
that got interviewed for it they were like why did you do it
531
and goes well they were right about the fact
532
that life is short so they have to be
533
that right about the fact that have an affair I was like
534
that is the most that's the dumbest mentality I've ever heard it does get me really freaked out
535
that 36 or 37 million people signed up for this
536
because I think it shows like how many people really do cheat yeah
537
I saw a study somewhere where I think it said
538
uh like one out of three people in relationships cheat yeah
539
or have the intention to cheat
540
which is insane no it really is there's two of us in this room and if there's another person
541
it could be that one no that's actually kind of insane to me
542
because obviously you and i would never
543
because we've been cheated on we just are not wired
544
that way it does seem like predominantly it's it is more men who are on the website
545
but can i just say
546
i have a hot take on this i feel like in the next 200 300 years open relationships
547
i think are going to be way more common i wouldn't say it would be a majority
548
but i feel like they're going to be i don't even know again i was thinking about
549
that i don't know if it's necessarily polygamy
550
because polygamy is like oh i'm going to be married to multiple people
551
i'm going to have a relationship with multiple people whereas an open relationship is i'm going to be married
552
or in a relationship with one person
553
but we're able to have sexual interactions with other people outside of our marriage
554
and i think that's going to become more common again
555
it's my hot take i feel like i feel like murders are going to go up
556
if that's the case that's scary because jealousy is a real real thing
557
and jealousy makes some people crazy no it does well anyways we
558
if you haven't watched the ashley madison documentary definitely do let us know your thoughts
559
because for me it was kind of crazy but speaking about relationships
560
that are headed to the end like the ones
561
that we saw in ashley madison um j -lo
562
and ben affleck might be headed towards a separation according to some sources for the what the hundredth time
563
it would be their second but anyways there are rumors
564
that j -lo jennifer lopez and ben um don't live together right now
565
so he moved out of their marital home
566
and neither are commenting on their relationship status yeah so interesting
567
and he didn't attend the premiere for her new movie atlas oh i didn't know
568
that he didn't attend yeah so he didn't 10 for the two movie premieres oh
569
that kind of is sad yeah but honestly what are you i
570
when they announced that they got married and
571
so quickly after their relationships ended i think it was like right after a -rod
572
that j -lo got into this relationship with ben i was like i don't know like the timeline of
573
when they recently started dating and got engaged
574
but they were previously engaged in the early 2000s
575
but they were previously engaged in the 2000s in um 2002 yeah
576
and they called off their wedding in 2003 yeah
577
and then they you know obviously got married in 2022
578
so a little less than 20 years later that's okay most would look at that
579
and be like oh they like it just was about timing they just needed you know to go through life
580
and then they'll come back together
581
but no you guys
582
this is literally like talk about marrying your back burner person
583
like you know how no matter what you do in life you always have
584
that person on the back burner that you go back to like do not marry
585
that person you there's a reason why you're not in a relationship with
586
that person literally what is happening what i took from this
587
is don't get back with your ex never like even
588
when 20 years has passed and you think
589
that they have changed just don't get back together with them no like in the past is in the past
590
you know what i'm saying yeah and especially
591
if you're in hollywood like it's such a big deal like you're in the public eye like don't
592
it just is so messy but can i just tell you i don't know
593
if you watched the roast of tom brady no i didn't
594
so tell me why i had no idea on netflix i had no idea
595
that ben affleck was gonna be a roaster but he came on stage
596
and he starts talking about social media
597
and he like kind of says oh like when me
598
and tom did the dunkin donuts commercial i looked at his social media
599
and people were just like you know saying mean things on there blah blah blah
600
but like as the speech went on you could tell he's not talking about tom brady like
601
that man is talking about j -lo
602
because i don't think he cares enough about himself
603
if people are talking about him on social media but definitely
604
that was about j -lo i was like j -lo did you write this like what happened
605
but basically j -lo is getting a lot of heat Eat on social media oh
606
i've seen yeah a lot do you remember
607
that people are making fun of her it's
608
so bad especially the video of her like messing with her hair and being like yeah like i'm from
609
harlem like no the bronx she's like this reminds me of a time
610
when i was just running around the bronx people are like jlo
611
and everyone's stitching it and making fun of her for it
612
and it sucks i it does suck
613
but like she doesn't have a good reputation of being like nice
614
so people are just like going in on her
615
but you can tell that it's affecting her so i think
616
that he did that entire speech just to be like you guys behind your keyboard warriors
617
if you saw me face to face
618
you wouldn't say shit to me would you that's what he said no
619
that's literally basically what he said you have to go watch
620
that specific section well she said she said
621
that her initial split from back in the early 2000s it was caused by like just like the media
622
and people talking about them oh yeah
623
so she's definitely like someone who gets impacted by the comment
624
and that's something
625
that ben also said too at one point of like you
626
know like i think j -lo is very aware of what people say about her yeah um
627
but there was a source
628
that said um the biggest issue in their relationship right now is she has a hard time feeling satisfied
629
so this year alone she came out with a new album she also came out with a self -financed movie
630
and then also a self -financed documentary
631
can i just tell you all three of them are
632
so bad i watched a clip from her movie no i know i've seen the
633
and she's like oh it was
634
so bad i was like what is happening here honestly it's interesting
635
that celebrities look at social media because i feel like
636
when you're at the status that ben Affleck
637
and JLo are like I wouldn't give a shit about reading comments
638
or like being in that space I just be like damn I'm making
639
so much money like I'm gonna try to live a happy life like away from
640
that but it humanizes them so much to me because I'm like
641
Ben are you reading oh
642
Pedro Pascal did a lie detector test yeah and he said that
643
when he's feeling down
644
he goes to look at his fan accounts oh for a
645
little boost yeah for a little boost see people like him no JLo I'm like
646
that that strategy won't work for you honey
647
but listen to like how we felt
648
when our show came out i think we looked at comments in the beginning
649
and we had to like teach ourselves to get out of
650
it yeah for like a little bit for i wouldn't say validation per se
651
but to get an idea like what people are thinking about you yeah no totally
652
and especially like you said she has an album out she did the she produced her own like film
653
and she has a documentary so like
654
when you're putting out new projects you obviously want to see what the feedback is
655
so i understand it
656
or someone's gonna tell you yeah like i feel like i'd be like oh hey like i'm sure
657
she has a whole team to be reading that stuff because
658
when we like were in the public eye more
659
i was like more attention was on us yeah we definitely felt
660
so good about the positive comments we were getting
661
but the negative ones even just one out of ten were the ones
662
that like impacts you the most like i thought
663
it was funny until i saw the comments where people are like you have the worst sense of humor shut
664
and i was like oh
665
so i don't have like a universally well -liked sense of humor eh
666
you're not like the let me sit here
667
and tell you a joke funny you're like a sarcastic no whatever we're like you're abusive
668
and mean and i was like oh i was like sorry that's
669
because they don't know you i'm gonna vouch for you you are funny someone told me they're like
670
and i was like okay i was like bring me down two more notches
671
i was like humble me right now listen i've been so humbled until
672
um our show came out yeah see this is why i
673
don't proclaim to be funny even though in my head i think i'm very funny
674
but everyone thinks they're funny 100
675
but i am only the funniest myself laugh 10 times a
676
day same yeah why are the veggies talking back to you
677
because no literally i was like like i'll do my makeup
678
and i'll like mess up and then i'll do like something funny like
679
if i mess up i'll like rub it
680
and be like like i'll laugh at myself is
681
that crazy a little bit i'm just laughing through the pain
682
i'm just kidding no i think um
683
it's interesting to you how like specific people bring out the funny in you like my sister laughs at everything
684
i do i'm like i am the best comedian to her i'm like i love you
685
so much you laugh at everything
686
i say doesn't land the same with some others just doesn't land with a love is blind crowd
687
you know just too much just really doesn't uh
688
but honestly that's crazy i feel like they're heading for a divorce ben
689
and j -lo i honestly hope that they don't because i think
690
that if they stay together well
691
because listen look i know we were joking we're like don't get back with your exes
692
or your back burner no really don't frozen pizza yes i agree with
693
that statement but you hope that their love story is the one
694
that like Thank you proves everyone wrong yeah people change after 20 years no
695
you could really make it work no you just gotta wait for them nope not j -lo
696
and ben affleck can't be
697
that example for you like absolutely not
698
they're they're a little scary to me like i'd be like look who said
699
you can't wait 20 years for someone to change honestly i'm team jennifer gardner
700
so honestly oh his ex -wife yeah his sex life no she's great too
701
but i mean i don't wish like divorce
702
or separation on anyone like i hope that they do work out
703
but i would i would want them to
704
because i love good love story like
705
that a little cycle just took a little long time to get there you know 20 years yeah
706
but if they're announcing
707
that they're separate at all i think they're not announcing
708
i feel like you're right you're right they did not announce
709
but from the looks of it i don't know yeah
710
i think they just have to do what's best for the mental health
711
because listen have you seen all the little clips of them together at award shows
712
and just like out in public
713
i know he's ben looks miserable no he's constantly like you could tell like he's frustrated
714
and she's frustrated yeah like you know it's bad
715
when you're public figures
716
and you can't keep your like private problems yeah out of the camera like you can't pretend for three hours
717
that you are happy yeah no literally remember
718
when he would like touch her and she'd be like that
719
that those videos give me life dude maybe that's their humor i feel like i feel like
720
if i had a partner no i only natalie i like likes this
721
because she probably be doing the same thing
722
but she truly loves it i do do it no literally no
723
but i hope they work out though i don't they look
724
so miserable but i want them to do what's best for them you know oh i'd love
725
that you know what me too see yeah if
726
if being together is what's best for them i hope they stay together
727
but if it's not i hope they amicably go their separate ways wow we are
728
so diplomatic on this podcast i love it no i feel like we have to be diplomatic these days
729
because i feel like the older i get i'm slowly becoming a karen oh what like you know
730
when we were younger and we'd see like our parents
731
or like older people like freak out about stuff like make a scene
732
and we're like oh my gosh yes i'm becoming i'm becoming those older people oh my gosh
733
so i was at target the other day
734
and i bought these burgers packaged burgers and there's a coupon from the brand
735
and it was all like you know buy one get one free
736
and i was like okay like i'm gonna grab two
737
and i check out and i was like hey like uh can i scan this coupon
738
that was on this burger um it's buy one get one free
739
and they try to scan and they're like hey it's it's not in our system like
740
so the coupon doesn't work yeah they're like so sorry it doesn't work
741
and I was like uh try again oh my gosh
742
they try again they're like it's not in our system sorry um
743
they're like do you still want the second burger do you want me to put it back
744
and I was like wait wait I was like you have a product in your store
745
that has a coupon that is not in the system oh my god
746
and I was like can you just give me like give me the burger like
747
or do i have to wait for it to be in
748
the system like how do you get the coupon in the system yeah like oh yeah
749
we have to like put it in the system at some point
750
but i don't have the ability to do that
751
so like let me know
752
if you want you know like okay mind
753
you these are cheap ass burgers like they were like 250 oh my god
754
so i'm fighting right now over two dollars
755
and 50 cents i've never been more disappointed same
756
but i couldn't let it go
757
i was just like there has to be an easy solution to this like instead of me just not buying
758
this extra burger yeah like there's got to be a solution
759
and i was all like well i was like can you just put the coupon in the system
760
and she goes well no i don't have the ability
761
and i was like can i speak to your manager oh my god oh my i mean
762
i was very kind
763
because i was like definitely she was like what the fuck just like let it go yeah
764
and she was young and
765
so i felt yeah
766
you're probably talking to like a 17 year old cashier my ego could not let it go
767
i was like i i need this extra burger for free like i i need
768
it okay this reminds me of my mom when she used to do
769
that and i would walk away i'd be like this is
770
so embarrassing i gotta go so the manager comes she's like okay what's the problem
771
and i was like hi this burger had a um a coupon on it from the brand
772
but i'm being told that the coupon isn't in the system
773
so i can't get the deal the buy one get one free
774
she goes oh yeah it's not in the system like these are new
775
it's probably like something we got this morning it was just stocked
776
and i was like can you get in the system
777
she goes oh no i don't have the ability we typically do it i forgot what the process was like
778
that i was just like frustrated and angry
779
and i was like well can i just have like the
780
free burger can you like do something oh my god
781
and then finally she was like okay sure like she's like anything to get you out of my store
782
literally and then so i got it but this whole interaction was probably like 10 15 minutes
783
And I was like, I can't believe I wasted 10, 15 minutes.
784
Yeah.
785
For two dollars
786
and fifty cents that's for a free burger yeah burger patty wait let me make
787
it it was a burger patty burger patty i'm honestly
788
i just i'm really proud of you for self -reflecting on this moment being like yeah
789
you were being i on my walk home from target
790
i was like why am i like this no really why
791
why did i almost lose my cool over two dollars
792
and fifty cents the poor people a raw burger patty why the the poor people standing behind
793
you in line being like i'm gonna have to move
794
that's a crazy thing it's like there was someone behind me
795
and she did move lanes yep
796
but she was like this isn't being resolved anytime soon the the moment
797
i was like let me talk to your manager yeah like
798
get your manager the woman behind me was like this is this is gonna be way too long
799
and i saw her move i would check reddit to see
800
if uh any one recognized you
801
and put the story on there they're like i just saw natalie from love is blind fighting for two dollars
802
and fifty cents on a burger
803
and i was like you know a piece of me was like mortified
804
but then a piece of me was like i deserve this like this is like of course like
805
if there's a coupon on a product
806
that has to be used why wouldn't
807
it be in your system yeah like you're you're it's a product in your store
808
but then i thought how crazy i was
809
and i realized the older i get like yeah like now little things like
810
that i'm like you i won't let shit go yeah you're prepping for momhood
811
because i remember back in the day going grocery shopping
812
or any shopping with my mom and she would literally be coupon on coupon
813
and it'd be so embarrassing i mean like i get it like life was expensive
814
so coupon away you're like um i'm gonna be waiting in the car no
815
i literally give me the car key i'm leaving if
816
that was my mom i'd be like mom just let it go no really
817
and now that i'm older and by myself
818
and doing my own thing i'm like wow i you know what i'm evolving into karen yeah
819
and now i really empathize with karens uh that's a bold statement not all karens
820
but some karens i'm like you asked for the mandra
821
i know why yeah you're you're not as on the Karen spectrum
822
I would place you like very on the low yeah yeah
823
like I'm still very kind about it I won't ever like yell
824
or raise my voice I don't know
825
if the manager said no I don't know what would have happened
826
I know I'd be like give me my two dollars
827
and fifty cents I'm gonna make a scene I'm gonna flip
828
this cashier by the time you even get
829
it the burgers are like thawed you're like shit I'm throwing
830
this away um no I'm on the very very low end
831
but yeah things like small things like that I do like fight for
832
when it's not worth the money
833
or time yeah yeah like why didn't I just let her put
834
it back I don't know ask yourself this question Natalie Natalie Lee
835
we're just gonna end this podcast episode right now so
836
if anyone can relate or if you think
837
that I am becoming a Karen please let us know DM
838
us at our Instagram page at out of the box
839
and make sure you guys leave a review and subscribe see you next Wednesday as a Karen bye

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cheat פועל/ˈt͡ʃiːt/רימה
documentary שם עצם/ˌdɒk.jʊˈmɛn.tɹi/צִלוּמֵי תְּעוּדָה
insane שם תואר/ɪnˈseɪn/בלתי־שפוי
podcast שם עצם/ˈpɑdˌkæst/פּוֹדְקַאסְט, הֶסְכֵּת
suck פועל/sʌk/מצץ
tomato שם עצם/təˈmeɪ.toʊ/עַגְבָנִיָּה, בַּדּוּרָה
patty שם עצם/ˈpæti/קְצִיצָה
affair שם עצם/əˈfɛɹ/פרשה
announce פועל/əˈnaʊn(t)s/הוֹדִיעַ
miserable שם תואר/ˈmɪz(ə)ɹəbəl/אֻמְלָל, מסכן
scam שם עצם/ˈskæm/תרגיל עוקץ, הונאה
humour שם עצם/ˈhjuːmɚ/הוּמוֹר
chili שם עצם/ˈt͡ʃɪli/פלפלת צ׳ילי
thin שם תואר/ˈθɪn/דַּק
thick שם תואר/θɪk/עבה

Phrasal verbs שתשמעו

מילההגייהמשמעות
come out פועל/ˌkʌm ˈaʊt/יָצָא
come back פועלשָׁב
grow up פועלגָּדַל
check out פועלבדק
figure out פועלהֵבִין, מצא תשובה
get up פועלקָם

משפטים שכדאי לחזור עליהם

משפטים קצרים ושלמים מהסרטון שאפשר להשתמש בהם בשיחה יומיומית:

  • That's why you need to scheme the system, man.
  • I don't know exactly what it's called.
  • Hey, they're your friends too now.
  • I mean, did the thought cross my mind?
  • I was like, what is going on?

דקדוק בסרטון הזה

המבנים שהדובר משתמש בהם הכי הרבה, עם המילים המדויקות מהסרטון:

מבנהבסרטון
הווה מושלם ממושך (Present perfect continuous) have/has been + -ing — פעולה שהתחילה בעבר ועדיין נמשכת עכשיוi've been listening · i've been making · I've been using
משפטי תנאי (Conditional sentences) if + clause, will/would + verb — תנאי ותוצאה שלוif someone didn't like pixel i would be · if i mess up i'll like
“Used to” used to + verb — הרגל או מצב שהיה נכון בעבר וכבר לא קייםused to watch · used to do
הווה מושלם (Present perfect) have/has + past participle — פעולה שקרתה בעבר ועדיין יש לה חשיבות או השפעה עכשיוi've adjusted · i've been · i've ever heard

הגייה ששווה לשים לב אליה

הדובר משתמש ב-371 קיצורים וצורות מקוצרות, כמו I'm, don't, you're. אמרו אותם בצורה הקצרה, כפי שאתם שומעים אותם.

  • הצלילים של “th”: thin /ˈθɪn/, thick /θɪk/, thrill /θɹɪl/
  • הצלילים של “sh” ו-“zh”: gosh /ɡɑːʃ/, photoshop /ˈfoʊ.toʊ.ʃɑp/, interaction /ˌɪn.təˈɹæk.ʃən/, separation /ˌsɛp.əˈɹeɪ.ʃən/, shout /ʃaʊt/
  • מילים ארוכות — שימו לב להטעמה: documentary /ˌdɒk.jʊˈmɛn.tɹi/, miserable /ˈmɪz(ə)ɹəbəl/, interaction /ˌɪn.təˈɹæk.ʃən/, separation /ˌsɛp.əˈɹeɪ.ʃən/, diplomatic /ˌdɪpləˈmætɪk/

צלילים שדוברי עברית מתקשים בהם:

  • /w/ — שפתיים מעוגלות, לא /v/: anyways /ˈɛn.iˌweɪz/, wire /ˈwaɪɚ/, whereas /(h)wɛɹˈæz/, wherever /(h)wɛɹˈɛvɚ/, twist /twɪst/
  • /æ/ — פתוח יותר מה-“אֶ” העברית, לא כמו “a” ב-“cup”: podcast /ˈpɑdˌkæst/, patty /ˈpæti/, scam /ˈskæm/, organic /ɔːˈɡænɪk/, interaction /ˌɪn.təˈɹæk.ʃən/
  • /r/ — הלשון לא נוגעת בשום מקום, לא ה-“ר” הגרונית: documentary /ˌdɒk.jʊˈmɛn.tɹi/, pretend /pɹəˈtɛnd/, affair /əˈfɛɹ/, miserable /ˈmɪz(ə)ɹəbəl/, promo /ˈpɹəʊməʊ/

איך לתרגל עם הסרטון הזה

  1. הקשיבו לכל הסרטון פעם אחת בלי לדבר, ורשמו את המילים שאתם לא מכירים.
  2. התחילו במהירות 0.75×, תרגלו Shadowing משפט אחר משפט, וחזרו למהירות רגילה כשזה מרגיש קל.
  3. הקליטו את עצמכם והשוו למקור, תוך תשומת לב למילים כמו cheat, documentary, insane.

מהי טכניקת השאדואינג?

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