Shadowing Practice: 馬斯克：不只基本收入，是「全民高收入」｜辦公室工作會「像閃電一樣」被 AI 取代，那剩下什麼工作？｜Joe Rogan 節目馬斯克｜真實訪談精選、單字解釋、雙語字幕 - Learn English Speaking with Video

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The only way to get us out of the debt crisis and to prevent America from going bankrupt is AI and robotics,

which is like just someone at a computer doing something.

AI is going to take over those jobs like lightning.

And ultimately, working will be optional because you'll have robots plus AI and we'll have,

in a benign scenario, universal high income.

One of the things you said when you stepped away is that you're kind of done and that it's unfixable that

Well or under its current form the way people are approaching it

You can you can make it directionally better, but ultimately you can't fully fix the system

So I I – like it is – it would be accurate to say

that even – like unless you go like super draconian like,

you know, Genghis Khan level on cutting waste and fraud, which you can't really do in a democratic country,

an aspirationally democratic country, then there's no way to solve the debt crisis.

So we've got national debt, that's just insane, where the debt payments, the interest payments on the debt exceed our entire military budget.

I mean, that was one of the wake -up calls for me.

I was like, wait a second, the interest on our national debt is bigger than the entire military budget and growing?

This is crazy um so um so so even

if you implement all these savings you're only delaying the day of reckoning for

when america becomes it goes bankrupt so unless you go full genghis khan um

which you can't really do so um so i came to the conclusion

that the only way that the only way to get us out of the debt crisis

and to prevent America from going bankrupt is AI and robotics.

So we need to grow the economy at a rate that allows us to pay off our debt.

The savings, like reducing waste and forward, can give us a longer runway, but it cannot ultimately pay off our national debt.

So what do you think the solution is to the jobs that are going to be lost because of AI and robotics,

the jobs due to automation, the jobs due to no longer do we need human beings to do these jobs because AI is doing them?

Do you think it's going to be some sort of a universal basic income thing?

Do you think there's going to be some other kind of solution that has to be implemented?

Because a lot of people are going to be out of work, right?

I think there will be actually a high demand for jobs, but not necessarily the same jobs.

So, I mean, this is actually, this process has been happening throughout modern history.

I mean, they used to be, like, doing calculations manually with, like, pencil and paper used to be a job

so used to have like buildings full of people called computers whether the banks would like the all

you do all day is is you do calculations

because they didn't have computers then didn't have digital didn't have digital computers

that people do this yeah well they're just people just like add

and subtract stuff on piece paper and and and that

that would be how banks would do you know financial processing

and you'd have to literally go over their equations to make sure the books are balanced yeah

and most times it's a simple math like

Like in a world before computers, how did you calculate, how did you do transactions?

You had to do them by hand.

So then when computers were introduced, the job of doing bank calculations no longer existed.

So people had to go do something else.

And that's what's going to happen.

That's what is happening at an accelerated rate.

Your AI and then robotics that's the issue though, right the accelerated rate because it's gonna be the accelerator

It's just happening.

Like I said, like AI is the supersonic tsunami so

That's why I call it supersonic tsunami

So it's like what other jobs will be available that aren't available now because of AI Well AI is really still digital.

Ultimately, AI can improve the productivity of humans who

Build things with their hands or do things with their hands, like literally welding, electrical work,

plumbing, anything that's physically moving atoms, like cooking food or farming,

like anything that's physical, those jobs will exist for a much longer time.

But anything that is digital, which is like just someone at a computer doing something, AI is going to take over those jobs like lightning.

Coding, anything along those lines.

It's going to take over those jobs like lightning.

Just like digital computers took over the job of people doing manual calculations, but much faster.

So what happens to all those people?

What kind of numbers are we talking about?

You're going to lose most drivers, right?

Commercial drivers, you're going to have automated vehicles, AI -controlled systems, just like there's certain ports in China,

I think in Singapore, where everything's completely automated.

But yeah, cars are going to be autonomous.

But there's just so many desk jobs where really what people are doing is they're processing email or they're answering the phone.

And just anything that isn't moving atoms, like anything that is not doing physical work, that will obviously be the first thing.

Those jobs will be and are being eliminated by AI at a very rapid pace um um

and ultimately i working will be optional uh because you'll have robots plus ai

and we'll have in a benign scenario universal high income not

just universal basic income universal high income meaning anyone can have any products or services that they want

So you but but there will be a lot of trauma and disruption along the way

So you anticipate a basic income

From that that the economy will boost to such an extent that a high income would be available to almost everybody

So we'd essentially eliminate poverty In the benign scenario.

Yes.

So like There's multiple scenarios.

There are multiple scenarios.

There's a lot of ways this movie can end

like the reason I'm so concerned about AI safety is

that like one of the possibilities is the Terminator scenario

it's not it's not zero percent by in the same way

having Grok be a maximally truth -seeking curious AI will force

the other AI companies to be also be more truth -seeking

and fair and the funniest thing is even though like the socialists

and the Marxists are in opposition to a lot of your ideas, but if this gets implemented and you really can achieve universal high income,

that's the greatest socialist solution of all time.

Like literally no one will have to work.

Correct.

Um, but like I said, so, so there is a benign scenario here, which I think probably people will be happy with if,

if, as long as we achieve it, which is sustainable abundance.

Um, which is if everyone can have – like if you ask people like, what's the future that you want?

And I think a future where we haven't destroyed nature, like you can still – we have the national parks,

we have the Amazon rainforest, it's still there.

We haven't paved the rainforest.

Like the natural beauty is still there.

But people have – nonetheless, everyone has abundance.

Everyone has excellent medical care.

Everyone has whatever goods and services they want.

It kind of sounds like heaven.

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It sounds like heaven.

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It is like the ideal socialist utopia and

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This idea

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that the only thing you should be doing with your time is working in order to pay your bills and feed yourself

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Sounds kind of archaic

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Considering the kind of technology that's at play.

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Yeah, like a world where that's not your concern at all anymore

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Everybody has money for food.

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Everybody has abundance.

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Everybody has electronics in their home.

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Everybody essentially has a high income.

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Now you can kind of do whatever you want.

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And your day can now be exploring your interests, doing things that you actually enjoy doing.

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Your purpose just has to shift.

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Instead of, you know, I'm a hard worker and this is what I do and that's how I define myself.

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Now you can.

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Golf all day, you know, you could whatever it is that you enjoy doing can now be your main pursuit.

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Yeah.

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Well, that sounds crazy good

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Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's that's the benign scenario that we should be ending to the movie is actually pretty good

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Yes Like I think there's there is still this question of meaning of like making sure people don't

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Lose meaning, you know, like so hopefully it can find meaning in ways

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that are not that's not derived from their work

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and Purpose the purpose for things that you you know find things that you do that you enjoy

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But there's a lot of people that are independently wealthy

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that spend most of their time doing something they enjoy right and That could be the majority of people

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Pretty much everyone we would have to rewire how people approach life

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Which seems to be like acceptable because you're not asking them to be enslaved

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You're exactly asking them the opposite like no longer be burdened by financial worries

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Now go do what you like

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yes test pizza do whatever you want um pretty much um

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so that's uh that's that's the that's the that's probably the best case outcome

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that sounds like the best case outcome period for the future

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if you're looking at like how much people have struggled just to feed themselves all throughout history food shelter safety

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if all that stuff can be fit like how much would you solve a lot of the crime

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if there was a universal high income just think of

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that like how much of crime is financially motivated you know the greater percentage of people

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that are committing crimes live in poor disenfranchised neighborhoods so

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if there's no such thing anymore

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if you really can achieve universal high income yeah

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this is it sounds like a utopian yes I think some people may commit crime

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because they like committing crime just some some amount of

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that is they just a lot of people out there yeah yeah

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and obviously they've become 40 years old living a life like

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that now all of a sudden universal high income is not gonna completely stop their instincts Yeah.

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But then, as you pointed out,

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the irony is that the ultimate capitalist thing of AI and robotics enabling prosperity for all and abundance of goods and services,

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actually the capitalist implementation of AI and robotics, assuming it goes down the good path,

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uh is is actually what results in the communist utopia

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because fate is fate is an irony maximizer right and

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and an actual socialism of maximum abundance of high income people

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universal high income yeah like the the problem with communism uh is is this universal low income um

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it's it's not that everyone gets elevated it's

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that everyone gets oppressed except for a very small minority of politicians who live a life of luxury

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that's what's happening every time it's been done yeah um

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so um but then the the actual communist topia

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if everyone gets anything they want will be will be

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if will be achieved if it is achieved it will be achieved via capitalism because fate is an irony maximizer.

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Vocabulary and speaking notes for this lesson

This speaking lesson is built on the video “馬斯克：不只基本收入，是「全民高收入」｜辦公室工作會「像閃電一樣」被 AI 取代，那剩下什麼工作？｜Joe Rogan 節目馬斯克｜真實訪談精選、單字解釋、雙語字幕”. The speaker keeps coming back to these words: income, universal, debt, scenario, computer. This video has 158 sentences and 1934 words to shadow. The speech runs for 14:11. The speaker talks at a steady 136 words per minute, a comfortable pace for shadowing. 84% of the words are among the 3,000 most common in English; the rest is worth studying before you start.

Key vocabulary in this video

15 words from the video worth learning, with pronunciation and meaning:

Word	Pronunciation	Meaning
universal adjective	/ˌjunəˈvɜɹs(ə)l/	Of or pertaining to the universe.
scenario noun	/sɪˈnɛəɹioʊ/	An outline or model of an expected or supposed sequence of events.
robotics noun	/ɹoʊˈbɑ.tɪks/	The science and technology of robots, their design, manufacture, and application
abundance noun	/əˈbʌn.dn̩s/	A large quantity; many.
benign adjective	/bɪˈnaɪn/	Kind; gentle; mild.
calculation noun	/ˌkælkjuˈleɪʃn̩/	The act or process of calculating.
fate noun	/feɪt/	The presumed cause, force, principle, or divine will that predetermines events.
commit verb	/kəˈmɪt/	To give in trust; to put into charge or keeping; to entrust; to consign; used with to or formerly unto.
lightning noun	/ˈlaɪt.nɪŋ/	A flash of light produced by short-duration, high-voltage discharge of electricity within a cloud, between clouds, or between a cloud and the earth.
socialist noun	/ˈsoʊ.ʃə.lɪst/	One who supports or advocates socialism.
implement verb	/ˈɪmpləmənt/	To bring about; to put into practice; to carry out.
irony noun	/ˈaɪ.ɚ.ni/	The quality of a statement that, when taken in context, may actually mean something different from, or the opposite of, what is written literally; the use of…
bankrupt adjective	/ˈbæŋk.ɹəpt/	In a condition of bankruptcy; unable to pay outstanding debts or meet financial obligations; specifically, having been legally declared insolvent.
essentially adverb	/ɪˈsɛnʃəli/	In essence: by nature.
solve verb	/sɒlv/	To find an answer or solution to a problem or question; to work out.

Phrasal verbs you will hear

Word	Pronunciation	Meaning
take over verb		To assume control of something, such as a business or enterprise, and sometimes by force.
pay off verb		To bribe, especially to deter oversight.
go down verb		To descend; to move from a higher place to a lower one.
go over verb		To look at carefully; to scrutinize; to analyze.
point out verb		To identify among a group of similar subjects, or in a scene where the subject might not be readily seen or noticed, with a gesture of the body.
wake up verb	/ˌweɪk ˈʌp/	To stop sleeping; to awake.

Sentences worth repeating

Short, complete lines from the video that you can reuse in everyday conversation:

What kind of numbers are we talking about?
You're going to lose most drivers, right?
We haven't paved the rainforest.

Grammar in this video

The structures the speaker uses most, with the exact words from the video:

Structure	In the video
Conditional sentences if + clause, will/would + verb — a condition and its result	if everyone gets anything they want will be
“Used to” used to + verb — a past habit or state that is no longer true	used to be · used to have
Passive voice be + past participle — the focus is on what happens, not who does it	be lost · be implemented · are balanced
Present perfect have/has + past participle — a past action that still matters now	haven't destroyed · haven't paved · have struggled

Pronunciation to watch

The speaker uses 33 contractions and reduced forms, such as you're, can't, didn't. Say them the short way, as you hear them.

The “th” sounds: math /mæθ/, wealthy /ˈwɛl.θi/, nonetheless /ˌnʌnðəˈlɛs/
The “sh” and “zh” sounds: calculation /ˌkælkjuˈleɪʃn̩/, socialist /ˈsoʊ.ʃə.lɪst/, essentially /ɪˈsɛnʃəli/, optional /ˈɑp.ʃə.nəl/, conclusion /kənˈkluːʒən/
Long words — get the stress right: universal /ˌjunəˈvɜɹs(ə)l/, essentially /ɪˈsɛnʃəli/, eliminate /ɪˈlɪm.ɪ.neɪt/, capitalist /ˈkæp.ɪ.tə.lɪst/, accelerate /ɪkˈsɛl.əˌɹeɪt/

How to practise with this video

Listen to the whole video once without speaking and note the words you do not know.
Shadow it sentence by sentence at normal speed, repeating each one until your rhythm matches the speaker.
Record yourself and compare with the original, paying attention to words like universal, scenario, robotics.

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Shadowing Practice: 馬斯克：不只基本收入，是「全民高收入」｜辦公室工作會「像閃電一樣」被 AI 取代，那剩下什麼工作？｜Joe Rogan 節目 馬斯克｜真實訪談精選、單字解釋、雙語字幕 - Learn English Speaking with Video

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