Shadowing Practice: Twenty One Pilots Interview - Tyler (part 1) - Learn English Speaking with Video

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So first, hi.

-Hi.

-How are you?

I'm good, how are you?

-I'm okay, thank you.

-Okay.

Do you recall the first record that you bought?

- First record I ever bought.

Whew.

I remember the first tape I ever bought.

Actually like a cassette tape.

Do you know what that is?

I was-- I'm old enough to remember.

OK, good.

It was by a band called DC Talk.

and I don't know if you know who they are, but it was my first piece of music I ever bought.

And I hate that stuff.

And what made you buy this specific thing?

- Thank you.

My dad was coaching basketball for a bunch of high schoolers, and I was just a little

elementary school kid and they were all listening to this band and I wanted to listen with them because

Because when you're in elementary school, nothing's cooler than a high schooler.

I bought the cassette.

And that's instilling you the Well, the desire to make music?

No, not at all actually.

I didn't even think about writing music.

So if you think about it, I bought the cassette when I was in first grade.

I didn't start playing music until I was in 11th grade, so 10 years later.

You're a self -taught musician.

What then made you pick up the piano and other instruments?

What made me pick up an instrument?

I guess...

identity issues because I didn't know who I was and I thought I was I thought it was one thing.

You know, it's like all about When you go to school and you interact with different kids, you try to figure out who you are.

What am I?

Am I the jock?

Am I the guy who's in theater?

Am I in a choir?

Do I play songs?

Do I whatever?

And I was really I was really drawn to something different than what I was in high school.

Because in high school I was a guy who did sports.

And I didn't really like that, I didn't think.

So when I first started learning how to play the piano, I was, I think I just accidentally found that.

And I liked, I liked who I was when I was doing that.

So did it help you find your identity more?

None of my family does any music or anything.

So I was just the weird music guy, you know, it was an anchor encouraged or?

No, in my family.

Yeah, they didn't really understand what was going on because like I said, none of them really are musical at all.

But they thought it was cool.

You know, it's like I set up a microphone and you know my own, you know, little studio in the basement and my mom's and

washing the dishes

and she hears her son screaming his head off down in the basement trying to record vocals

and she's got to be thinking what the heck is going on with him.

So I'm sure that they were really confused.

But now, you know, now I'm in a different country getting interviewed by you

because of the stupid songs that I wrote in my basement.

Fair enough.

Do you still have those recordings, those very first recordings?

Did you ever listen to them?

I have some of the first recordings I've ever done still on my computer

and I guard those with my life because I don't want anyone to ever hear them.

tons and tons of songs labeled Tyler Joseph because

that was my name and I figured that was what I should call the person who was writing the songs.

And now it looks ridiculous to see my name just copied over

and over and over again because of all the weird songs I wrote in the past.

Yeah, you're not going to hear those.

But something must have compelled you to keep them.

Yeah, you're right.

I don't know.

I mean, I've thrown away a lot of stuff.

And I mostly throw away ideas now more than ever because when I try to write, I get a lot out of it.

It helps me work through things.

Like in a cathartic sense?

Absolutely.

It's my word actually.

It's my favorite word.

Catharsis is...

I had that word as a vocabulary word in high school and I'll never forget it because it explained exactly um, what songwriting is for me.

And, uh, you don't need to keep the song in order to feel the effect of something like that.

So sometimes I'll throw things away, but But back then, I didn't throw stuff away as much because it was so precious.

Because they were my first songs ever.

You can always hold on to your first songs.

And they're terrible.

Well, looking back, how did you describe them as being terrible?

What then helped you develop as a musician?

Listening to other songs.

I became a student of the radio and a student of the internet.

So some specific bands maybe or?

Specifically No, I think that I took different things from from different bands.

You know, there's an aspect of my live performance that I've taken from dozens of different performers.

There's an aspect of the way that I deliver a vocal on a track

that I take from six other people who record in a studio.

There's an aspect of my songwriting that I couldn't even begin to talk about only two or three bands that

And it's not even fair for me to even talk about just two of them, you know.

So I like to not even mention it.

It's just so many.

So it's more, not certain elements, certain bands, but certain elements that exist in a lot of bands

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and a lot of music and then compile them and make it your own?

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Yeah, there's a...

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For example, something that has influenced me, there's a song, and I don't want to throw everything on to this one band,

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but there's a song by The Killers, they do a music video, too.

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And he's standing in the middle of the city in Japan, I believe, and he looks dead in the camera, and his eyes are really calm,

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but there's a moment where his hand kind of suggesting I'm trying to come across as if I'm fine,

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but really there's something wrong.

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I think of a moment like that.

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That has influenced me musically more than any song has.

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I come from a generation that had YouTube.

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I could look up anything I wanted.

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I was influenced My Chemical Romance, where They're playing in just this dusty abyss.

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They just pour it all out.

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That's how much I want to believe in my music.

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So those things I think of just different moments.

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But those bands are amazing.

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But I want to be better than them.

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It actually sounds like on your website there's this bio section where you talk about joy

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and happiness and the distinction between them.

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And this sounds very much like what you just described, the pretense of happiness, but actually it's just joy which fades away.

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Is that correct?

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Yeah.

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No, I think that what I get out of traveling around the world now, being able to play music,

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things that just translate perfectly.

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You have sexuality, you know, people are attracted to one another.

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You know, you have food, people love food.

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Everybody in the entire world likes food. And you have music.

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And really those are like the only things that there are.

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I mean, I'm sure we can come up with some other theories, but you know, you think about music and how and how it just applies to to everyone.

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Universal...

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It's very...

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Universal is a perfect word for it.

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So, so then I start, as a songwriter, I start thinking of other universal Concepts.

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And I think that one of those whether or not people really understand it is the concept of

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trying to figure out how to go about this life in a way that you

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enjoy yourself or in a way that you like who you are.

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And whether or not you like who you are is really hinged upon whether or not you have joy.

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Because I'm happy that I'm here right now talking to you.

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but then something else can happen where I'm about to go play a show

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and nothing goes right and then I'm not happy anymore.

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It's very, It's fleeting.

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it gets influenced by the things that are going on around me and if I'm controlled by just that, then I'm gonna go nuts.

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I need to find something bigger.

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I need to find something that I have joy, which I feel like kind of, it spans out over my entire life.

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If hopefully, you know, more than just a moment, hopefully a day, a month, years, where joy just is is there and I think that when you find joy, then you find peace.

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And when you find peace, then you have obviously found something to believe in.

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But it is still, I assume, then a continuous struggle to find it.

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Absolutely.

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And that's.. that goes back to...

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another universal language. And that's...

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struggling to find peace.

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And that's something I think that every single person on Earth has to figure out.

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אוצר מילים והערות הגייה לשיעור הזה

שיעור הדיבור הזה ברמה B2 מבוסס על הסרטון “Twenty One Pilots Interview - Tyler”. המילים שחוזרות הכי הרבה: song, band, joy, bought. בסרטון הזה יש 151 משפטים ו-1565 מילים לתרגול Shadowing. הדיבור נמשך 10:40. הדובר שומר על קצב יציב של כ-147 מילים בדקה, קצב נוח לתרגול Shadowing. 83% מהמילים נמצאות בין 3,000 המילים הנפוצות ביותר באנגלית; כדאי ללמוד את השאר לפני שמתחילים. 24 מתוך 151 המשפטים שלו הם שאלות, כך שזה תרגול טוב לאינטונציה של שאלות ולתשובות קצרות.

אוצר מילים מרכזי בסרטון הזה

13 המילים המתקדמות ביותר בסרטון, עם ההגייה והמשמעות שלהן:

מילה	הגייה	משמעות
cassette שם עצם	/kəˈsɛt/	קַלֶּטֶת, קָסֶטָה
basement שם עצם	/ˈbeɪsmənt/	מַרְתֵּף
musician שם עצם	/mjuˈzɪʃən/	מוּזִיקַאי
catharsis שם עצם	/kəˈθɑɹˌsɪs/	קתרזיס
songwriter שם עצם		משורר
microphone שם עצם	/ˈmaɪ.kɹəˌfəʊn/	מִיקְרוֹפוֹן
vocabulary שם עצם	/vəˈkæb.jə.lə.ɹi/	אוֹצַר מִלִּים
choir שם עצם	/kwaɪɚ/	מַקְהֵלָה
translate פועל	/tɹænzˈleɪt/	תִּרְגֵּם
anchor שם עצם	/ˈæŋ.kəː/	עוגן \ עֹגֶן
span שם עצם	/spæn/	זֶרֶת
pour פועל	/poɹ/	שפך, מזג
scream פועל	/skɹiːm/	צרח

Phrasal verbs שתשמעו

מילה	משמעות
figure out פועל	הֵבִין, מצא תשובה
pick up פועל	הרים, אסף
throw away פועל	הִשְׁלִיךְ

משפטים שכדאי לחזור עליהם

משפטים קצרים ושלמים מהסרטון שאפשר להשתמש בהם בשיחה יומיומית:

I'm good, how are you?
Do you recall the first record that you bought?
Do you know what that is?
What made me pick up an instrument?
Am I the guy who's in theater?

דקדוק בסרטון הזה

המבנים שהדובר משתמש בהם הכי הרבה, עם המילים המדויקות מהסרטון:

מבנה	בסרטון
הווה מושלם (Present perfect) have/has + past participle — פעולה שקרתה בעבר ועדיין יש לה חשיבות או השפעה עכשיו	I've ever done · I've thrown · I've taken
סביל (Passive voice) be + past participle — הדגש הוא על מה שקורה, לא על מי שעושה את הפעולה	was really drawn · was influenced · are attracted
משפטי זיקה (Relative clauses) who / which + clause — מידע נוסף על אדם או דבר	guy who did · person who was · people who record

הגייה ששווה לשים לב אליה

הדובר משתמש ב-39 קיצורים וצורות מקוצרות, כמו I'm, didn't, don't. אמרו אותם בצורה הקצרה, כפי שאתם שומעים אותם.

הצלילים של “th”: catharsis /kəˈθɑɹˌsɪs/, cathartic /kəˈθɑɹtɪk/
הצלילים של “sh” ו-“zh”: musician /mjuˈzɪʃən/, distinction /dɪˈstɪŋkʃən/
מילים ארוכות — שימו לב להטעמה: musically /ˈmjuːzɪkəli/, vocabulary /vəˈkæb.jə.lə.ɹi/

צלילים שדוברי עברית מתקשים בהם:

/æ/ — פתוח יותר מה-“אֶ” העברית, לא כמו “a” ב-“cup”: vocabulary /vəˈkæb.jə.lə.ɹi/, translate /tɹænzˈleɪt/, anchor /ˈæŋ.kəː/, interact /ɪn.təˈɹækt/, span /spæn/
/r/ — הלשון לא נוגעת בשום מקום, לא ה-“ר” הגרונית: catharsis /kəˈθɑɹˌsɪs/, cathartic /kəˈθɑɹtɪk/, pretense /ˈpɹiːtɛns/, microphone /ˈmaɪ.kɹəˌfəʊn/, performer /pɚˈfɔɹmɚ/
עיצור קולי בסוף מילה — /b/, /d/, /g/, /z/, /v/ בלי להפוך אותם לאטומים: bind /ˈbaɪ̯nd/, fade /feɪd/

איך לתרגל עם הסרטון הזה

הקשיבו לכל הסרטון פעם אחת בלי לדבר, ורשמו את המילים שאתם לא מכירים.
תרגלו Shadowing משפט אחר משפט במהירות רגילה, וחזרו על כל משפט עד שהקצב שלכם תואם את הדובר.
הקליטו את עצמכם והשוו למקור, תוך תשומת לב למילים כמו cassette, basement, musician.

מהי טכניקת השאדואינג?

שאדואינג היא טכניקת למידת שפה מבוססת מדע שפותחה במקור להכשרת מתורגמנים מקצועיים ופופולרית על ידי הפוליגלוט ד"ר אלכסנדר ארגואלס. השיטה פשוטה אך עוצמתית: אתה מקשיב לאודיו באנגלית ילידית וחוזר עליו בקול רם מיד — כמו צל העוקב אחרי הדובר עם עיכוב של 1–2 שניות בלבד. בניגוד להאזנה פסיבית או תרגילי דקדוק, שאדואינג מכריח את המוח והשרירים בפה לעבד ולשחזר דפוסי דיבור אמיתיים בו זמנית. מחקרים מראים שזה משפר משמעותית את דיוק ההגייה, האינטונציה, הקצב, הדיבור המחובר, הבנת השמיעה ושטף הדיבור — מה שהופך אותו לאחת השיטות היעילות ביותר להכנה לIELTS Speaking ולתקשורת באנגלית בעולם האמיתי.

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